I actually think she had an earpiece on the right side because her hair covered it well. She kept writing things down and then would come back with a stronger comment.
She seemed to be jotting down notes. Was someone talking in her ear? Her earrings are unusual- so weird that they look exactly like the ad. Evidently only available in Europe right now. Guess it pays to have connections.
Ha! I was surprised Trump brought it up. But it’s not fake news - I’ve seen several interviews. 1/3 if a small town’s population taken over. Tptb plan it that way - they don’t like small businesses either.
we'll probably find out it was true...after the election. a lot of blue team members are happy to call something misinformation or proven false or conspiracy theory etc., as long as it stops debate and hurts Trump. Like the laptop. Like Zuckerberg.
What else that immediately bothers me is the self-righteous superiority thing my blue team does. Kamala saying she's all about 'building people up and not tearing people down,' etc., then, calling Trump like Hitler and a rapist and a criminal and a liar.' et. al. It's like only we can insult and call it uplifting, that POS Trump should never do it, amen.' Irritating. If the moderators had any real integrity at all, they'd point out this hypocrisy, but of course, they engaged in the same partisanship.
"To ensure a level playing field for both candidates, we are currently developing a male version and will soon be able to offer it to the Trump campaign," the company said.
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Just the News requested comment from Icebach Sound, the Munich-based company that sells the earrings.
"We do not know whether Mrs. Harris wore one of our products. The resemblance is striking and while our product was not specifically developed for the use at presidential debates, it is nonetheless suited for it," Malte Iversen, managing director at Icebach Sound, told Just the News on Wednesday. "To ensure a level playing field for both candidates, we are currently developing a male version and will soon be able to offer it to the Trump campaign. The choice of colour is a bit challenging though as orange does not go well with a lot of colours.
No....she was just better prepared. And I don't think she would risk her entire candidacy on trying to pull a stupid move.
All she had to prepare were speaking points on 1 abortion 2 economy 3 immigration 4 Israel/Ukraine .....pretty easy to prepare for, and no surprising questions from her allies at ABC
The rest, race, J6, crowd size, closing statement....all very easy.
I think not. No one performs consistently as poorly as she did for over 3.5 years and then gets up on stage and does that. No one. That is Hollywood... That is performance enhancement... NZT-48 (Limitless) or Adderall or something else. And someone in her ear either literally or in the hours and days preceding the debate. Otherwise known as intense coaching. You can call it "better prepared". What is the most likely answer?
The moderators were an embarrassment to journalism. Moderators are supposed to be impartial. It was not hard to see it was three against one, orchestrated by the head of ABC who is a close personal friend of Kamala as she has credited her friendship with Dana for introducing her to her husband. That is not an impartial friendship, over 30 years of extraordinary friendship, according to her.
She has bumbled every press appearance I have ever watched and to suddenly come out swinging like a prize fighter and sounding like Obama , it leaves much to ponder. The ear piece and/or earrings makes so much sense. Nothing would surprise me.
For all the Americans struggling to survive, working multiple jobs to pay their bills, no extras, food too expensive, jacked up car insurance and gasoline so they experience transportation hardship, do not qualify for any government programs because they are "working" ... how do they feel about the 11 million plus immigrants that are being given debit cards from OUR government with $2,000 a month, free medical, food stamps, free housing, not coerced or forced to get the covid jab? The average American files bankruptcy over being short consistently month after month of $500 or less. How would $2,000 a month change their lives?
I believe the System, the handout system, encourages dependency and a need to stay broken. They taunt you with freebies and penalize you for working. I am a full time caretaker for my elderly sick father. Medicaid will pay me to be his caregiver but I have to promise not to work and they share information with the IRS to make sure you do not receive any income. Ain't that some shit. But if I am on the "state" system, the freebie system, I qualify. Ever watch Stranger Things? We are living in the Upside Down.
As for my friends who have been on the list to become Americans legally, been on the list for years, they finally get the appointment and what are they told? If you don't get the jab you will be deported and the paperwork goes away. That is F'd Up. They have lived here for decades. Go back to what? So they get the jab. Then they get sick. And on and on.
To cover a couple of things mentioned above - - -
Abortion - yes Roe v Wade allowed abortions in all three trimesters ... attaching info here: In Roe v. Wade the Court said that a fetus is not a person but "potential life," and thus does not have constitutional rights of its own. The Court also set up a framework in which the woman's right to abortion and the state's right to protect potential life shift: during the first trimester of pregnancy, a woman's privacy right is strongest and the state may not regulate abortion for any reason; during the second trimester, the state may regulate abortion only to protect the health of the woman; during the third trimester, the state may regulate or prohibit abortion to promote its interest in the potential life of the fetus, except where abortion is necessary to preserve the woman's life or health.
Doe v. Bolton
410 U.S. 179 (1973)
Roe v. Wade was modified by another case decided the same day: Doe v. Bolton. In Doe v. Bolton the Court ruled that a woman's right to an abortion could not be limited by the state if abortion was sought for reasons of maternal health. The Court defined health as "all factors – physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age – relevant to the well-being of the patient." This health exception expanded the right to abortion for any reason through all three trimesters of pregnancy.
Economy - the last 3 1/2 years has been a financial shit show for the average American, most things I buy have doubled in price, I have kept my receipts so whoever thinks inflation is 7%, I would really like to know what they are buying.
Immigration - see my rant above - and by the way, although it sounded crazy, I have watched the videos of Haitians killing pets and eating them, cats, dogs, protected geese and ducks ... pretty sickening but the videos are available if you look no matter how many times she said she it was denied by the official she quoted. Just because it was denied does not mean it is not happening. Message me if you want to see it but I warn you, once you see it, you can never unsee it. And if you are an animal lover like me, it will turn your stomach - cooking cats over an open flame and worse.
Israel/Ukraine - I do believe Trump would end the war - the question was a trick - there can be no Winner
Border Bill - He helped kill it because it was attached to sending Ukraine 60 billion dollars.
There is so much more ... but not enough coffee for me to keep pouring this out to the choir.
I don't disagree with one thing you stated. All I'm saying is unless you have some proof of an earpiece, your credibility suffers and puts into question all your salient points. Maybe she had the questions ahead of time, but at this point none of it matters.
Trump should have been prepared for the traps ABC & Harris set.
Instead he walked right into them...even General Custer was better prepared.
And how many missed opportunities to eviscerate her? Way too many.
Chalk it up to he lost. If he doesn't learn from these mistakes, she'll be the next president.
More people engage in critical thinking, do not trust legacy media and they will fact check the fact checkers. This will backfire, like everything else.
Few minds were changed by this, but the media will lose even more credibility.
She embraced Dick Cheney's endorsement. This will be a red pill to the 6 remaining fence sitters that exist.
I’m watching Charlie Kirk and they’re showing some of the different stations that had people watching the debate and questioning them about how they felt about the candidates. many are saying that they don’t trust that Kamala would keep her word to do anything different. That they know they had a better life when Trump was in office compared to the past 3 1/2 years.
Her lies can be easily, quickly fact checked, and will be, this will show up in social media feeds. But let's be real. No one changed their mind. Kamala voters are immune to reality. I can't imagine there are any really undecided.
That last point is spot on. Of all the commentary I've listened to tonight, that wasn't mentioned. The libertarians may not vote for Trump but a vote withheld from Harris (by them) is only helpful to Trump.
We were treated to a sustained hour-and-a-half of Harris "blackwhite"--look up the Orwellian term. It's that state of mind required for ideology to work, in which one holds two contradictory propositions at the same time (and not in Fitzgerald's sense), such as when one accuses one's opponent of being divisive, when one is being hyper-divisive. Everything she said, especially in accusation of Trump, was not just a lie but an existential one. That deep. How can you argue with that? Rational argument requires responsibility for what one says, and that's exactly what blackwhite negates with its systematic duplicity.
Harris and Democrat lying are not just a tactic, as with all politicians, but a strategy, a system of universal lying. On every issue and on persons. I just watched a Harris ad claiming that Trump wants to establish a dictatorship. Literally.
If Her Mouth Is Moving, She Is Just Doing What Devils Do, Practicing Widespread Deception On The Grandest Scale Possible.
You Will Recall That The Possessed Hitler And Goebbels Team Manufactured Only Grand Deception To Distribute Through Their MSM, Such As It Was, Throughout Germany.
They Later Bragged That If A Would Be Leader Tells Lies That Are Big Enough, And Told Often Enough, The Pack Of Lies Will Become The New Truth.
Kombomo Is A Practicing Grand Deceiver, Though Not A Very Convincing Liar, Like Her Friend Hilara.
ABC was totally in the tank for Kamala. It’s like it was scripted for her. Every challenging pushback and fact check went against Trump and every softball, creampuff question went to Kamala. Surprise, surprise. What a shit show of choreographed partisanship masquerading as journalism. Disgusting.
I knew I shouldn't have watched this debate....I knew Trump would be walking into a trap and he sure did with the moderators who baited him and glossed over Harris comments....I can not stand Kamala and now I can't stand her more.
I did not want to watch but did and am actually glad I did. I needed to see just how three against one looks. I think those sticky voters, whose numbers are small but mighty, will actually see just how one more arrow was shot at Trump....lawfare, attempted assassination, voting with no ID, and the media wholly up Harris' ass.
People are drowning in a cup of water over the debate. Mr. Trump will win in November. Mrs. Harris will lose. Mrs Harris base has been manufactured, apart from those living in DC, her base only exists on tv and in digital form. Trump’s base as of last election stands at 80 million, plus you add RFK Jr. to the mix and the result is a landslide. 30 million people that live in DC will vote for Mrs. Harris. She still needs to come up with another fake 70 million and more to win . That’s just not going to happen. Stop worrying and vote Trump/Kennedy this November and tell others to do the same.
Well said, Nelson. I didn't want to watch the debate, but I did. Cackles was horrific with her non-verbal nonsense. There were moments where I thought I was watching a ten-year old making moronic faces. I was disappointed that Donald took the bait, but what choice did he have with the 3 on 1 pile on!
I just watched Megyn Kelly's post debate round-up. Man-oh-man, Megyn was fired up. It's worth watching! I am with Eric Bolling and his football analogy. We're in the 4 quarter, down a few points, but don't ever bet against Patrick Mahomes! Teflon Don!
Harris wants another debate. Sounds to me like her team thinks she lost. I agree, just based on her lame and his cutting closing statements. Trump should say sure, he'll debate but this time it's on FOX (or whoever).
How about Trump and Harris each pick a journalist for any future debates - that would provide some balance. Of course the Dems won't go for this because they have to cheat to win.
Seriously, BBC? For an American election debate? Hell no!!! Just wrong on every level! And if you think the BBC is unbiased, you got another think coming!
i watched the taibbi/kirn debate coverage. part way through the debate kirn said he had it on good authority, from someone who would know, that it was believed kamala was using an earpiece in her right ear. her hair covered her ear and was hairsprayed to an inch of its life, unlike the left.
it could be a conspiracy theory, but it also could explain how she could go on as she did for that long, when she usually cannot, even with the softballs and protection from the abc debate hosts. that could have been a large part of the "practice" for her leading up to the debate, how to listen and speak while someone is whispering what to say in your ear.
she was better prepared but that was because yes, her allies were protecting her and i don't doubt they helped her practice. i also am going to double down on the earpiece theory. not the pearl earrings that are making the rounds on the news, the good old fashioned clear/invisible earpiece with the wire that goes down your back. the way her hair was styled, no one would ever see it (did you notice her hair didn't MOVE on the right side of her head, at all, and it fully covered her ear unlike on the other side?)
also i think it explains why she looked down so much. i wouldn't be surprised one iota if she practiced up until now about how to listen and answer with someone whispering in her ear. near the end of the pile-on, i remarked out loud to my family, "it's almost like she has obama in her ear doing the answers for her." except obama doesn't like her so i can't see him going that far, but maybe, do what you need to do to win?
Yes, I totally agree with you, and I would have urged Trump to make some comment about not getting into personal attacks but to stick to the CURRENT issues, i.e., when Charlottesville was raised, he should have said, I think my record proves that I treated everyone, regardless of race/gender equally, and Harris's comments are irrelevant.
i heard or read before the debate that there was a coin toss or something about who would go first, who would have the final statement, and which side of the stage they would be standing. harris picked her side of the stage, if i recall or maybe trump chose to be on the left? i can't remember now. i'm sure it's out there if you do a search.
maybe. but if you have the moderators and station on your side and in the bag before you even start, wearing an earpiece and knowing you can get away with it i would think can be a bit of a thrill, especially because no one would think to call you out on something as specific as that.
it didn't matter what trump said, the moderators weren't going to let him be right, even when he was.
i actually thought he did pretty good standing and listening to kamala blather on and hurling insults at him throughout the night all things considered. it's funny, she kept trying to goad him on that, that he calls names and what have you, and she was the one who did it to him all night long.
If you continue to advance this idea without any proof or evidence that she was wearing an earpiece, you're going to lose all credibility on even your strong points.
Let's agree that she was protected by ABC, was better prepared, and Trump had a bad night. If he doesn't learn from his mistakes, and there's still time, he will lose something he has worked tirelessly and was almost killed for.
i can agree that she was protected by the network and moderators. i believe she rehearsed and practiced to be prepared, but i don't believe she is THAT good for that long of a time period.
trumps mistake was believing that the network would be above board on what they agreed to for the debate. don't forget this is the same network that owns disney and didn't want to pay out for the woman who died on their property recently and tried to claim because the couple agreed to the terms of their streaming service years earlier, it covered anything and everything they owned and operated.
I watched about 6 mins. of the debate and found Harris's performance the best I have seen her. I didn't notice the earpiece biz, but that would explain it. I don't believe she can speak logically extemporaneously. I think she needed the assistance.
The way the cameras were set up favored Harris as well. She was shot head on and filled the frame. Trump's eyes were not visible for much of the (brief) time I watched. It looked like he was shot from higher up and at an angle and more of a distance, so he seemed smaller in the frame.
Your comments do seem to have merit - there was little to no word salads - how did this happen, i.e., did she have an ear piece - she asked for the podium on the right (was this for a reason?).
And their pets start disappearing, illicit drug traffic increases, gangs take over housing, etc., when the illegal migrants flood their communities as is happening in several cities.
So we all knew ABC was going to be biased, as is the entirety of MSM. So what! And yes there were a million additional things Trump could have brought up, and ask 100 different people and you'll get a 100 different responses. Again, so what! But, what about the converse from Khameleon? Trump hit on the points he needed to hit on, over and over, and most importantly that which matters most to voters according to all the cross tabs in reliable, but less known polls, i.e., economy, immigration, crime, and foreign policy. Period. This was not a debate about personality, but if it were, Trump held true to who he is, and everyone already knows who he is, and he still continues to exceed beyond prior election polls and support! He does not let people verbally assault him with a bunch of lies! I am glad Trump hit back on all the bs that was thrown at him! Trump is already achieving greater support from demographics he previousely did not have in 2016 or 2020. Khameleon is not making that same connection, and cannot convince the voters that matter. While the leftist Marxists and MSM can argue until they're blue in the face that Trump got riled up tonight, and so he must have lost, I argue the opposite! In short, the same Trump on stage tonight won all the primaries prior to 2016 and the election! He won in 2020 as well! I would also argue Khameleon was horrible in her tone, nonverbal cues, and other issues regarding her demeanor and advocating in one sentence against divisiveness, to the next sentence being divisive. Khameleon looked as phony as a $6 bill (raised due to Biden-Khameleon-inflation).
Despite the MSM spin that will follow, along with the usual fake polls, the Rustbelt is not going to vote overwhelmingly for Khameleon, or her commie VP. The only shot she has is in MI, and even that is doubtful. For my fellow MAGA, this was another win for Trump. Just be prepared for the foregoing, but not to worry, we will see what the more reliable and proven polls have to say in the next few weeks, the same few who will be calling out the fraudsters in the industry behind the scenes. Trump's closing said it all! Scranton, PA Joe barely won by less than 50,000 electoral college votes, and he was believed by many to be a moderate, despite in reality, along with his crime family, being the biggest grifters in D.C. who swung too far left. You can only put enough lipstick on a pig, or rather a Khameleon!
If went as expected. We could wish Trump to become someone else, but that’s a fantasy. Kamala wins, and the country goes to hell. If by some miracle Trump wins, he would not be able to do anything because the deep state or whatever we call the entity that holds all the power, will resist. The best we can hope for is that he can temporarily slow down or pause the country’s sliding down into the progressive socialist madness. But this chance seems remote after the debate.
I would agrre that Trump was sandbagged by thr deep state in his first administration but he knows who the RINO's are now, and don't underestimate the 7th Calvery....by that I mean someone who has been suing the deep state for 40 years and winning....
KENNEDY.. His alliance with Trump is a fame changer.
You're thinking only of articulateness as the winning quality, instead of authenticity. Kamala's fundamental problem is that to win independents, she must be someone she's not. Moreover, her ordinary affect fails the smell test. So, to my ear, and to the ear many of the independents on the panels, she seemed conspicuously fake. Which, given the absolute necessity of her pivoting to the middle, is not a small problem. People remember being burned by Biden, who at least had a moderate track record. Kamala has to run from her record, so inauthentic = lose. Trump, however, was just Trump.
I think you're on the money with that first bit. Kamala may have been articulate, as many career politicians are. When Trump was elected in 2016, following Obama who was very articulate, it was America's way of saying we didn't want articulate politicians who lied to our faces. Harris failed to make herself appear authentic, and so it doesn't matter how well spoken she was or wasn't- people's worst suspicions about Harris still remain unchallenged.
It is a mistake to trust *anyone*. Even the secret service nearly had him killed. They will do literally anything to stop him. A phony “debate” where all three leftists happily reinforced each other’s ridiculous, malicious taunts is the least of it.
At the end of the day, Trump is still responsible for agreeing to this, and for losing his cool, his train of thought, his presence. But to continue to harbor a fantasy it mattered - that there ever was any universe in which he wins… something I just can’t do anymore.
Oh, come on. It's not like we're in London in 1940 and know to expect nightly visits from the Luftwaffe. But England had a great advantage which we lack: a selfless leader and a great man.
Trump is neither. He may take Churchill's urging to never give up to heart, but don't we suspect it's more for his reputation than for America's future?
Maybe we must endure an extremely dark four years, after which Vance, Hawley, Gabbard, who knows? will emerge as the real leader of the Resistance.
I wouldn't be so optimistic. Should Harris win, we can expect the invasion at the open borders to explode and there will be 15 - 20 million new illegal migrants entering and getting free government benefits, and possibly amnesty. How does our nation recover from this - illegal aliens will constitute upwards of 30 - 40 million people - the population of TX and a dramatic drain on public services, untold impacts on employment, and other economic issues, not to mention a political force that will turn the US quickly into a one party dictatorship for decades. It's a repeat of the collapse of the Roman Empire when the Germanic tribes invaded and Rome was sacked and collapsed.
Multiple ideas out there about why they allowed this injustice to play out. Could it be to change the population so much it affects the vote ?
Could it be more sinister? The UN has been running ads in New York for a security/peacekeeping force ... we would never be able to get young Americans in the National Guard to turn en mass on their fellow Americans and round people up so to speak ... but what if the UN Force employs and empowers the migrant community on our soil? There is talk of "fast tracking" them to citizenship if they join the military or other security forces. Stay aware. Pay attention. We will see. Twenty plus years ago I would have said no freakin way. After what I have seen leading up to today's radicalized agenda, I believe anything is possible.
Nobody changes their mind because of a debate. The fact that the left is giddy is because they've seen undecided voters breaking for Trump at a 2:1 clip the past few weeks, and the latest polls haven't had time to account for RFK Jr. dropping out and endorsing Trump.
I think he's just really TIRED! Geez, somebody tried to kill him 2 months ago and he hasn't taken a day off! When you almost die, shock hits HARD (ask me how I know). It's exhausting to carry on as normal. No shit
Newsflash: trump didn’t get shot. There was never even a bullet. He has no scar, there are no doctors notes, it never happened. Fake blood, fist pumping the air..It was all staged for the cameras. Fake news.
Dr. Jackson verified! I guess the dead firefighter, his funeral, and his family interviews were staged, along with the other two victims? Newsflash: you're an idiot!
No mistake! Biden took over a week to prepare and so did Khameleon. Reminds me of one of those ubiquitous shirts popularized not long ago, e.g., Two weeks of debate prep, and all I got was this cheap shirt!! People need to get away from the elitist mindset if they want to understand the American electorate, especially the Midwest and Rustbelt that will decide this election, albeit as it stands Trump has a strong chance of wining national vote as well. Republicans are outpacing Democrat registrations, and as per the 2016 and 2020 elections, there are many old school/blue dog Dems who have never changed their voter registration who voted for Trump, and will do so again, along with other increasing demographics! Despite Khameleon's boasting of getting UAW's endorsement, I would not be surprised if Trump get's 70-80% of its members' votes. Voters already know who Trump is, and some may not like his tone or some of his statements, but they like his accomplishments, to which in comparison with the last 3 1/2 years are like comparing apples with cockroaches! Moreover, Khameleon's phony performance last night only solidified the long standing distrust and dislike voters have for her! Believe the hype, or believe reality!
As both Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelley noted, the moderators framed many questions using the following formula: “Trump, you said something bad and mean - why are you bad and mean? Kamala, how do you feel about Trump being bad and mean?”
And her earrings look suspiciously like the ones advertised as microphone earrings: https://x.com/tarabull808/status/1833709773168259290?s=12
I actually think she had an earpiece on the right side because her hair covered it well. She kept writing things down and then would come back with a stronger comment.
She seemed to be jotting down notes. Was someone talking in her ear? Her earrings are unusual- so weird that they look exactly like the ad. Evidently only available in Europe right now. Guess it pays to have connections.
Ha! I was surprised Trump brought it up. But it’s not fake news - I’ve seen several interviews. 1/3 if a small town’s population taken over. Tptb plan it that way - they don’t like small businesses either.
we'll probably find out it was true...after the election. a lot of blue team members are happy to call something misinformation or proven false or conspiracy theory etc., as long as it stops debate and hurts Trump. Like the laptop. Like Zuckerberg.
What else that immediately bothers me is the self-righteous superiority thing my blue team does. Kamala saying she's all about 'building people up and not tearing people down,' etc., then, calling Trump like Hitler and a rapist and a criminal and a liar.' et. al. It's like only we can insult and call it uplifting, that POS Trump should never do it, amen.' Irritating. If the moderators had any real integrity at all, they'd point out this hypocrisy, but of course, they engaged in the same partisanship.
Has the odds in Vegas changed on the likely winner?
NO.
Harris didn't win JACK CRAP.
Sorrry!
Company responds to theory Harris wore audio earrings at debate: 'The resemblance is striking'
https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/company-responds-theory-harris-wore-audio-earrings-pres-debate-resemblance-striking
"To ensure a level playing field for both candidates, we are currently developing a male version and will soon be able to offer it to the Trump campaign," the company said.
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Just the News requested comment from Icebach Sound, the Munich-based company that sells the earrings.
"We do not know whether Mrs. Harris wore one of our products. The resemblance is striking and while our product was not specifically developed for the use at presidential debates, it is nonetheless suited for it," Malte Iversen, managing director at Icebach Sound, told Just the News on Wednesday. "To ensure a level playing field for both candidates, we are currently developing a male version and will soon be able to offer it to the Trump campaign. The choice of colour is a bit challenging though as orange does not go well with a lot of colours.
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Democrats Cheating? I'm Shocked!
lol, like
I was observing the exact same thing!
No....she was just better prepared. And I don't think she would risk her entire candidacy on trying to pull a stupid move.
All she had to prepare were speaking points on 1 abortion 2 economy 3 immigration 4 Israel/Ukraine .....pretty easy to prepare for, and no surprising questions from her allies at ABC
The rest, race, J6, crowd size, closing statement....all very easy.
I think not. No one performs consistently as poorly as she did for over 3.5 years and then gets up on stage and does that. No one. That is Hollywood... That is performance enhancement... NZT-48 (Limitless) or Adderall or something else. And someone in her ear either literally or in the hours and days preceding the debate. Otherwise known as intense coaching. You can call it "better prepared". What is the most likely answer?
The moderators were an embarrassment to journalism. Moderators are supposed to be impartial. It was not hard to see it was three against one, orchestrated by the head of ABC who is a close personal friend of Kamala as she has credited her friendship with Dana for introducing her to her husband. That is not an impartial friendship, over 30 years of extraordinary friendship, according to her.
She has bumbled every press appearance I have ever watched and to suddenly come out swinging like a prize fighter and sounding like Obama , it leaves much to ponder. The ear piece and/or earrings makes so much sense. Nothing would surprise me.
For all the Americans struggling to survive, working multiple jobs to pay their bills, no extras, food too expensive, jacked up car insurance and gasoline so they experience transportation hardship, do not qualify for any government programs because they are "working" ... how do they feel about the 11 million plus immigrants that are being given debit cards from OUR government with $2,000 a month, free medical, food stamps, free housing, not coerced or forced to get the covid jab? The average American files bankruptcy over being short consistently month after month of $500 or less. How would $2,000 a month change their lives?
I believe the System, the handout system, encourages dependency and a need to stay broken. They taunt you with freebies and penalize you for working. I am a full time caretaker for my elderly sick father. Medicaid will pay me to be his caregiver but I have to promise not to work and they share information with the IRS to make sure you do not receive any income. Ain't that some shit. But if I am on the "state" system, the freebie system, I qualify. Ever watch Stranger Things? We are living in the Upside Down.
As for my friends who have been on the list to become Americans legally, been on the list for years, they finally get the appointment and what are they told? If you don't get the jab you will be deported and the paperwork goes away. That is F'd Up. They have lived here for decades. Go back to what? So they get the jab. Then they get sick. And on and on.
To cover a couple of things mentioned above - - -
Abortion - yes Roe v Wade allowed abortions in all three trimesters ... attaching info here: In Roe v. Wade the Court said that a fetus is not a person but "potential life," and thus does not have constitutional rights of its own. The Court also set up a framework in which the woman's right to abortion and the state's right to protect potential life shift: during the first trimester of pregnancy, a woman's privacy right is strongest and the state may not regulate abortion for any reason; during the second trimester, the state may regulate abortion only to protect the health of the woman; during the third trimester, the state may regulate or prohibit abortion to promote its interest in the potential life of the fetus, except where abortion is necessary to preserve the woman's life or health.
Doe v. Bolton
410 U.S. 179 (1973)
Roe v. Wade was modified by another case decided the same day: Doe v. Bolton. In Doe v. Bolton the Court ruled that a woman's right to an abortion could not be limited by the state if abortion was sought for reasons of maternal health. The Court defined health as "all factors – physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age – relevant to the well-being of the patient." This health exception expanded the right to abortion for any reason through all three trimesters of pregnancy.
Economy - the last 3 1/2 years has been a financial shit show for the average American, most things I buy have doubled in price, I have kept my receipts so whoever thinks inflation is 7%, I would really like to know what they are buying.
Immigration - see my rant above - and by the way, although it sounded crazy, I have watched the videos of Haitians killing pets and eating them, cats, dogs, protected geese and ducks ... pretty sickening but the videos are available if you look no matter how many times she said she it was denied by the official she quoted. Just because it was denied does not mean it is not happening. Message me if you want to see it but I warn you, once you see it, you can never unsee it. And if you are an animal lover like me, it will turn your stomach - cooking cats over an open flame and worse.
Israel/Ukraine - I do believe Trump would end the war - the question was a trick - there can be no Winner
Border Bill - He helped kill it because it was attached to sending Ukraine 60 billion dollars.
There is so much more ... but not enough coffee for me to keep pouring this out to the choir.
Excellent summary
I don't disagree with one thing you stated. All I'm saying is unless you have some proof of an earpiece, your credibility suffers and puts into question all your salient points. Maybe she had the questions ahead of time, but at this point none of it matters.
Trump should have been prepared for the traps ABC & Harris set.
Instead he walked right into them...even General Custer was better prepared.
And how many missed opportunities to eviscerate her? Way too many.
Chalk it up to he lost. If he doesn't learn from these mistakes, she'll be the next president.
yet, I score a tie. He did not go overboard with the continuous exaggerations until near the end. What did the undecideds think?
I wonder if that's true.
More people engage in critical thinking, do not trust legacy media and they will fact check the fact checkers. This will backfire, like everything else.
Few minds were changed by this, but the media will lose even more credibility.
She embraced Dick Cheney's endorsement. This will be a red pill to the 6 remaining fence sitters that exist.
I’m watching Charlie Kirk and they’re showing some of the different stations that had people watching the debate and questioning them about how they felt about the candidates. many are saying that they don’t trust that Kamala would keep her word to do anything different. That they know they had a better life when Trump was in office compared to the past 3 1/2 years.
Her lies can be easily, quickly fact checked, and will be, this will show up in social media feeds. But let's be real. No one changed their mind. Kamala voters are immune to reality. I can't imagine there are any really undecided.
Good, I been hoping her negatives are already 'baked-in' with the voters, based on near 4 years of her open-mouth, empty-brain missteps.
Absolutely, no one changed their mind. Hence, she didn't win.
Whoever thinks she did is watching too much ABC.
That last point is spot on. Of all the commentary I've listened to tonight, that wasn't mentioned. The libertarians may not vote for Trump but a vote withheld from Harris (by them) is only helpful to Trump.
Libertarians are voting for Trump. There is no alternative, and not voting is a vote for Harris in swing states.
Perhaps. I live in a swing state and it's actually gut wrenching.
We were treated to a sustained hour-and-a-half of Harris "blackwhite"--look up the Orwellian term. It's that state of mind required for ideology to work, in which one holds two contradictory propositions at the same time (and not in Fitzgerald's sense), such as when one accuses one's opponent of being divisive, when one is being hyper-divisive. Everything she said, especially in accusation of Trump, was not just a lie but an existential one. That deep. How can you argue with that? Rational argument requires responsibility for what one says, and that's exactly what blackwhite negates with its systematic duplicity.
Harris and Democrat lying are not just a tactic, as with all politicians, but a strategy, a system of universal lying. On every issue and on persons. I just watched a Harris ad claiming that Trump wants to establish a dictatorship. Literally.
If Her Mouth Is Moving, She Is Just Doing What Devils Do, Practicing Widespread Deception On The Grandest Scale Possible.
You Will Recall That The Possessed Hitler And Goebbels Team Manufactured Only Grand Deception To Distribute Through Their MSM, Such As It Was, Throughout Germany.
They Later Bragged That If A Would Be Leader Tells Lies That Are Big Enough, And Told Often Enough, The Pack Of Lies Will Become The New Truth.
Kombomo Is A Practicing Grand Deceiver, Though Not A Very Convincing Liar, Like Her Friend Hilara.
ABC was totally in the tank for Kamala. It’s like it was scripted for her. Every challenging pushback and fact check went against Trump and every softball, creampuff question went to Kamala. Surprise, surprise. What a shit show of choreographed partisanship masquerading as journalism. Disgusting.
I knew I shouldn't have watched this debate....I knew Trump would be walking into a trap and he sure did with the moderators who baited him and glossed over Harris comments....I can not stand Kamala and now I can't stand her more.
I did not want to watch but did and am actually glad I did. I needed to see just how three against one looks. I think those sticky voters, whose numbers are small but mighty, will actually see just how one more arrow was shot at Trump....lawfare, attempted assassination, voting with no ID, and the media wholly up Harris' ass.
People are drowning in a cup of water over the debate. Mr. Trump will win in November. Mrs. Harris will lose. Mrs Harris base has been manufactured, apart from those living in DC, her base only exists on tv and in digital form. Trump’s base as of last election stands at 80 million, plus you add RFK Jr. to the mix and the result is a landslide. 30 million people that live in DC will vote for Mrs. Harris. She still needs to come up with another fake 70 million and more to win . That’s just not going to happen. Stop worrying and vote Trump/Kennedy this November and tell others to do the same.
Well said, Nelson. I didn't want to watch the debate, but I did. Cackles was horrific with her non-verbal nonsense. There were moments where I thought I was watching a ten-year old making moronic faces. I was disappointed that Donald took the bait, but what choice did he have with the 3 on 1 pile on!
I just watched Megyn Kelly's post debate round-up. Man-oh-man, Megyn was fired up. It's worth watching! I am with Eric Bolling and his football analogy. We're in the 4 quarter, down a few points, but don't ever bet against Patrick Mahomes! Teflon Don!
You are correct and on point! Well stated! All else is worthless hyperbole!
I like where you're going with this. Am all in!
still 50/50. who shows up and actually votes?
Fake polls. Preconditioning the voters to her "win"
Harris wants another debate. Sounds to me like her team thinks she lost. I agree, just based on her lame and his cutting closing statements. Trump should say sure, he'll debate but this time it's on FOX (or whoever).
If she were to decline FOX, we'd quickly know that the only reason she'd want another is to get more friendly media help.
So who, exactly, trusts FOX to be any better.
They're all marching to the same drumrmer.
Why not? That would only level the playing field for what happened Tuesday night!
There should be another debate, on BBC would be nice, but if not, Fox? a deserving elect president should be able to do it.
How about Trump and Harris each pick a journalist for any future debates - that would provide some balance. Of course the Dems won't go for this because they have to cheat to win.
OMG. the BBC would smoke him like a briskate. They're farther left than MSNBC!
ha. I feel so alienated. not even James Cook?
Seriously, BBC? For an American election debate? Hell no!!! Just wrong on every level! And if you think the BBC is unbiased, you got another think coming!
i watched the taibbi/kirn debate coverage. part way through the debate kirn said he had it on good authority, from someone who would know, that it was believed kamala was using an earpiece in her right ear. her hair covered her ear and was hairsprayed to an inch of its life, unlike the left.
it could be a conspiracy theory, but it also could explain how she could go on as she did for that long, when she usually cannot, even with the softballs and protection from the abc debate hosts. that could have been a large part of the "practice" for her leading up to the debate, how to listen and speak while someone is whispering what to say in your ear.
She was better prepared, and her allies at ABC were protecting her.
This should be the last presidential debate ever. No Republican should ever agree unless it's moderated by independent journalists.
she was better prepared but that was because yes, her allies were protecting her and i don't doubt they helped her practice. i also am going to double down on the earpiece theory. not the pearl earrings that are making the rounds on the news, the good old fashioned clear/invisible earpiece with the wire that goes down your back. the way her hair was styled, no one would ever see it (did you notice her hair didn't MOVE on the right side of her head, at all, and it fully covered her ear unlike on the other side?)
also i think it explains why she looked down so much. i wouldn't be surprised one iota if she practiced up until now about how to listen and answer with someone whispering in her ear. near the end of the pile-on, i remarked out loud to my family, "it's almost like she has obama in her ear doing the answers for her." except obama doesn't like her so i can't see him going that far, but maybe, do what you need to do to win?
Yes, I totally agree with you, and I would have urged Trump to make some comment about not getting into personal attacks but to stick to the CURRENT issues, i.e., when Charlottesville was raised, he should have said, I think my record proves that I treated everyone, regardless of race/gender equally, and Harris's comments are irrelevant.
i heard or read before the debate that there was a coin toss or something about who would go first, who would have the final statement, and which side of the stage they would be standing. harris picked her side of the stage, if i recall or maybe trump chose to be on the left? i can't remember now. i'm sure it's out there if you do a search.
Yes ABC was protecting her, all the more reason Trump should have prepared.
Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that you were beat, outplayed, poorly prepared. Even Harris isn't that dumb to risk an earpiece.
maybe. but if you have the moderators and station on your side and in the bag before you even start, wearing an earpiece and knowing you can get away with it i would think can be a bit of a thrill, especially because no one would think to call you out on something as specific as that.
it didn't matter what trump said, the moderators weren't going to let him be right, even when he was.
i actually thought he did pretty good standing and listening to kamala blather on and hurling insults at him throughout the night all things considered. it's funny, she kept trying to goad him on that, that he calls names and what have you, and she was the one who did it to him all night long.
If you continue to advance this idea without any proof or evidence that she was wearing an earpiece, you're going to lose all credibility on even your strong points.
Let's agree that she was protected by ABC, was better prepared, and Trump had a bad night. If he doesn't learn from his mistakes, and there's still time, he will lose something he has worked tirelessly and was almost killed for.
i can agree that she was protected by the network and moderators. i believe she rehearsed and practiced to be prepared, but i don't believe she is THAT good for that long of a time period.
trumps mistake was believing that the network would be above board on what they agreed to for the debate. don't forget this is the same network that owns disney and didn't want to pay out for the woman who died on their property recently and tried to claim because the couple agreed to the terms of their streaming service years earlier, it covered anything and everything they owned and operated.
I watched about 6 mins. of the debate and found Harris's performance the best I have seen her. I didn't notice the earpiece biz, but that would explain it. I don't believe she can speak logically extemporaneously. I think she needed the assistance.
The way the cameras were set up favored Harris as well. She was shot head on and filled the frame. Trump's eyes were not visible for much of the (brief) time I watched. It looked like he was shot from higher up and at an angle and more of a distance, so he seemed smaller in the frame.
Your comments do seem to have merit - there was little to no word salads - how did this happen, i.e., did she have an ear piece - she asked for the podium on the right (was this for a reason?).
or just say after suqqing at the start, she did better than most of us believed she could. I can admit it.
If the idiot public puts this witch in the Oval Office than they deserve the crap she will hurl at them.
Just wait until their kids get drafted to support the Dems forever wars.
And their pets start disappearing, illicit drug traffic increases, gangs take over housing, etc., when the illegal migrants flood their communities as is happening in several cities.
She should be forced to live amongst the crazies she has let into the country
there are some fine cities in Canada I hear.
Canada is pushing euthanasia on its citizens. No thanks.
So we all knew ABC was going to be biased, as is the entirety of MSM. So what! And yes there were a million additional things Trump could have brought up, and ask 100 different people and you'll get a 100 different responses. Again, so what! But, what about the converse from Khameleon? Trump hit on the points he needed to hit on, over and over, and most importantly that which matters most to voters according to all the cross tabs in reliable, but less known polls, i.e., economy, immigration, crime, and foreign policy. Period. This was not a debate about personality, but if it were, Trump held true to who he is, and everyone already knows who he is, and he still continues to exceed beyond prior election polls and support! He does not let people verbally assault him with a bunch of lies! I am glad Trump hit back on all the bs that was thrown at him! Trump is already achieving greater support from demographics he previousely did not have in 2016 or 2020. Khameleon is not making that same connection, and cannot convince the voters that matter. While the leftist Marxists and MSM can argue until they're blue in the face that Trump got riled up tonight, and so he must have lost, I argue the opposite! In short, the same Trump on stage tonight won all the primaries prior to 2016 and the election! He won in 2020 as well! I would also argue Khameleon was horrible in her tone, nonverbal cues, and other issues regarding her demeanor and advocating in one sentence against divisiveness, to the next sentence being divisive. Khameleon looked as phony as a $6 bill (raised due to Biden-Khameleon-inflation).
Despite the MSM spin that will follow, along with the usual fake polls, the Rustbelt is not going to vote overwhelmingly for Khameleon, or her commie VP. The only shot she has is in MI, and even that is doubtful. For my fellow MAGA, this was another win for Trump. Just be prepared for the foregoing, but not to worry, we will see what the more reliable and proven polls have to say in the next few weeks, the same few who will be calling out the fraudsters in the industry behind the scenes. Trump's closing said it all! Scranton, PA Joe barely won by less than 50,000 electoral college votes, and he was believed by many to be a moderate, despite in reality, along with his crime family, being the biggest grifters in D.C. who swung too far left. You can only put enough lipstick on a pig, or rather a Khameleon!
If went as expected. We could wish Trump to become someone else, but that’s a fantasy. Kamala wins, and the country goes to hell. If by some miracle Trump wins, he would not be able to do anything because the deep state or whatever we call the entity that holds all the power, will resist. The best we can hope for is that he can temporarily slow down or pause the country’s sliding down into the progressive socialist madness. But this chance seems remote after the debate.
I would agrre that Trump was sandbagged by thr deep state in his first administration but he knows who the RINO's are now, and don't underestimate the 7th Calvery....by that I mean someone who has been suing the deep state for 40 years and winning....
KENNEDY.. His alliance with Trump is a fame changer.
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You're thinking only of articulateness as the winning quality, instead of authenticity. Kamala's fundamental problem is that to win independents, she must be someone she's not. Moreover, her ordinary affect fails the smell test. So, to my ear, and to the ear many of the independents on the panels, she seemed conspicuously fake. Which, given the absolute necessity of her pivoting to the middle, is not a small problem. People remember being burned by Biden, who at least had a moderate track record. Kamala has to run from her record, so inauthentic = lose. Trump, however, was just Trump.
I think you're on the money with that first bit. Kamala may have been articulate, as many career politicians are. When Trump was elected in 2016, following Obama who was very articulate, it was America's way of saying we didn't want articulate politicians who lied to our faces. Harris failed to make herself appear authentic, and so it doesn't matter how well spoken she was or wasn't- people's worst suspicions about Harris still remain unchallenged.
It is a mistake to trust *anyone*. Even the secret service nearly had him killed. They will do literally anything to stop him. A phony “debate” where all three leftists happily reinforced each other’s ridiculous, malicious taunts is the least of it.
At the end of the day, Trump is still responsible for agreeing to this, and for losing his cool, his train of thought, his presence. But to continue to harbor a fantasy it mattered - that there ever was any universe in which he wins… something I just can’t do anymore.
We are all lost.
Oh, come on. It's not like we're in London in 1940 and know to expect nightly visits from the Luftwaffe. But England had a great advantage which we lack: a selfless leader and a great man.
Trump is neither. He may take Churchill's urging to never give up to heart, but don't we suspect it's more for his reputation than for America's future?
Maybe we must endure an extremely dark four years, after which Vance, Hawley, Gabbard, who knows? will emerge as the real leader of the Resistance.
I wouldn't be so optimistic. Should Harris win, we can expect the invasion at the open borders to explode and there will be 15 - 20 million new illegal migrants entering and getting free government benefits, and possibly amnesty. How does our nation recover from this - illegal aliens will constitute upwards of 30 - 40 million people - the population of TX and a dramatic drain on public services, untold impacts on employment, and other economic issues, not to mention a political force that will turn the US quickly into a one party dictatorship for decades. It's a repeat of the collapse of the Roman Empire when the Germanic tribes invaded and Rome was sacked and collapsed.
I agree with you. I'm not in favor of opening the gas jets unless Trump loses.
Thirty years ago in Houston, I couldn't have imagined that what I was seeing in illegal immigration wouldn't have been stopped.
Multiple ideas out there about why they allowed this injustice to play out. Could it be to change the population so much it affects the vote ?
Could it be more sinister? The UN has been running ads in New York for a security/peacekeeping force ... we would never be able to get young Americans in the National Guard to turn en mass on their fellow Americans and round people up so to speak ... but what if the UN Force employs and empowers the migrant community on our soil? There is talk of "fast tracking" them to citizenship if they join the military or other security forces. Stay aware. Pay attention. We will see. Twenty plus years ago I would have said no freakin way. After what I have seen leading up to today's radicalized agenda, I believe anything is possible.
Nobody changes their mind because of a debate. The fact that the left is giddy is because they've seen undecided voters breaking for Trump at a 2:1 clip the past few weeks, and the latest polls haven't had time to account for RFK Jr. dropping out and endorsing Trump.
I do wish Trump could have had one line about Dick Cheney's endorsement of Khameleon: He was the lowest rated VP until you came along!
Exactly, but Trump came in resting on his experience at his rallies and no prep. Big mistake.
I think he's just really TIRED! Geez, somebody tried to kill him 2 months ago and he hasn't taken a day off! When you almost die, shock hits HARD (ask me how I know). It's exhausting to carry on as normal. No shit
Newsflash: trump didn’t get shot. There was never even a bullet. He has no scar, there are no doctors notes, it never happened. Fake blood, fist pumping the air..It was all staged for the cameras. Fake news.
Dr. Jackson verified! I guess the dead firefighter, his funeral, and his family interviews were staged, along with the other two victims? Newsflash: you're an idiot!
If you're serious you should move to Moscow
No mistake! Biden took over a week to prepare and so did Khameleon. Reminds me of one of those ubiquitous shirts popularized not long ago, e.g., Two weeks of debate prep, and all I got was this cheap shirt!! People need to get away from the elitist mindset if they want to understand the American electorate, especially the Midwest and Rustbelt that will decide this election, albeit as it stands Trump has a strong chance of wining national vote as well. Republicans are outpacing Democrat registrations, and as per the 2016 and 2020 elections, there are many old school/blue dog Dems who have never changed their voter registration who voted for Trump, and will do so again, along with other increasing demographics! Despite Khameleon's boasting of getting UAW's endorsement, I would not be surprised if Trump get's 70-80% of its members' votes. Voters already know who Trump is, and some may not like his tone or some of his statements, but they like his accomplishments, to which in comparison with the last 3 1/2 years are like comparing apples with cockroaches! Moreover, Khameleon's phony performance last night only solidified the long standing distrust and dislike voters have for her! Believe the hype, or believe reality!
As both Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelley noted, the moderators framed many questions using the following formula: “Trump, you said something bad and mean - why are you bad and mean? Kamala, how do you feel about Trump being bad and mean?”
perzactly