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Really, the NYT has been slanting the news or outright lying for almost 100 years.

Exhibit A: Walter Duranty, Times Moscow correspondent, denies the Holodomor, Stalin's intentional starvation of millions (no one knows how many) of Ukrainian peasants.

Exhibit B: Guido Enderis, Times Berlin Bureau Chief, paints Hitler in the best possible light, positioning him as a moderating factor in German politics.

The incredible thing is that both these men were reporting in the same decade, and the Times printed their tripe. They even got a Pulitzer Prize for Duranty's crap.

You might even say the Times loves dictators...

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“You might even say the Times loves dictators...”

So true, and there are plenty of examples.

What I don’t understand is how they started and perpetuated their blatantly illogical big lie that collectivist-leftists with an ideology based in a strong central authority - are somehow, someway ‘far right.’

Nov. 5, 1922

MUSSOLINI, HOPE OF YOUTH, ITALY'S 'MAN OF TOMORROW'; HARD WORK HIS CREED Scholar and Editor, SelfTaught, Is Premierat Thirty-Eight ONCE A SOCIALIST LEADER Spectre of a Bolshevik Government Led Him to OrganizeFascisti and Upset Cabinet.

https://archive.ph/58W4d

EVERYTHING is possible in Italy. The speaker was Benite Mus solini, the new Italian Premier; the place was Rome; the time-- just the other day. Since then his words have become reality. He has been swept into the seats of the mighty on that overpowering wave of Fascismo. Just as Fascismo is a political...

Or This:

March 1, 1934

GIBBS SAYS HITLER HAS CURED DESPAIR; Finds Unemployment Relief Has Effected Moral Rescue of German Destitute Classes. PEOPLE 'CAN HOPE AGAIN' Youth Regards System as a Splendid Adventure, Though Propaganda Gets Tedious.

https://archive.ph/4yOsR

BERLIN, Feb. 28 (By Wireless). -For three days since I have been here Berlin has been a city celebrating as a great victory the day fourteen years ago when Adolf Hitler started his campaign with a small group of friends in a beer hail in Munich, where last Saturday he made a speech as the ruler of Germany.

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Let’s not forget about the Times’ Herbert Matthews love for Fidel Castro in 1957. His articles claiming Castro was “pro-democracy” paved the way for the communist island prison that still suffers to this day.

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They would bury stories about Nazi death camps as small internal stories.

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But but but... if we just get a GOOD dictator, you see, it will finally all work out for the best. The next iteration will have worked out the bugs. (Granted, it has been a bit messy.)

But how much simpler and better to put truly well-meaning and credentialed people in the right spots, especially at the very top, and then work the program! This representative government is a wonderful ideal is all quite attractive until you start taking it literally, and then it results in too much controversy.

And of course for all this to proceed unimpaired, we need to control messaging—streamline and sync messaging—with synergy across boundaries that needlessly separate government, media, education, industry (especially those related to information), finance, health, and even (cough) why not involve the "religious" types, provided they get on board too?

Messaging, people. Uniform messaging. Which includes of course uniformity backward in time as well, as needed. The past, updated and reimagined. Retract never.

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The total FUBAR on the hospital reporting had the net effect of blowing up talks between regional leaders, making a much wider war in the Middle East likely. This is what bad reporting does.

No truer words ever spoken than, "fake news is the enemy of the people."

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All by design, of course.

I would not put it past Hamas to have bombed the hospital deliberately for the propaganda win. Watching this story play out and the predictable responses from the usual suspects more than supports the hypothesis.

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Truth is the first casualty of war.

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One Thousand "Likes" !

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Jeff, At first I was willing to believe it because it is extremely likely that Hamas stores weapons, munitions, personnel and headquarters themselves in or around schools and hospitals. If I were a devious organization playing the international propaganda game, I would too. Frankly, I was surprised when the story was debunked.

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“Kenosha and the False Narrative.”

A couple of years ago a white woman in Aurora, a city west of Chicago, was carjacked and then shot in the back and paralyzed. Most likely the black carjacker shot her for being white and a member of the race that is, according to the left, brutally oppressing blacks and randomly shooting them. I most surely do blame the left for hate crimes like this. She’s a victim of their constant demonization of white people. Most likely done to avenge the shooting in the back of Jacob Blake in Kenosha in 2020 and relentlessly hyped by the media as yet more evidence of white racism in AmeriKKKa.

I have no doubt at all that the black racial attacks on whites which are always immediately classified as random crime are in fact hate crimes generated by the media. The democrats and their msm are evil. May God curse them for their crimes.

“She was pushed over the center console, shot in the spine, and then pulled from the vehicle and thrown to the ground."

“2 charged in Aurora carjacking which left woman paralyzed.”

ABC7 Chicago. Apr 29, 2021

https://abc7chicago.com/2-charged-in-aurora-carjacking-that-left-woman-paralyzed/10559875/

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Oct 18, 2023·edited Oct 18, 2023

The media are propagandists for the real totalitarian/globalist fascists - yet they label Trump a "fascist"!

They tried to create a narrative that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist when he was just a young man with a strong sense of civic mindedness and a desire to serve and protect his fellow citizens. And they have never apologised.

The media goes on about "hate crimes" like the fake one Juicy Smollett supposedly suffered. But they won't report on real hate crimes if they are done on white people because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Thanks for telling this lady's story. Your own little micro-sized piece of citizen journalism.

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They ruined that poor woman’s life which no doubt also devastated her family and it meant nothing at all to them. The media had to know that such an intentional shooting was revenge for the shooting of Jacob Blake who was also paralyzed by the police shooting but they simply didn’t care. They never do and that is evil.

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It always comes back to education. The MSM, the NGOs, the federal government, and businesses like Disney are all staffed by 20-somethings whose knowledge of the world comes from 17 years of being stuck by their parents in front of a cartoon-infested TV, followed by 4 years of pacification by adults terrified of the possibility of declining enrollments. And after all that coddling and being shallow self-congratulation, they naturally demand to be heard in their jobs. These are the people leading the way.

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Scary, isn't it?

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Lord of the Flies writ large.

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The NY Times has been playing with the truth going back to the 1940’s when they told their gullible readers that there were no concentration camps in Germany and the Nazis weren’t murdering innocent Jewish people.

That was the time when people should of realized this rag of a newspaper had no credibility.

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The NYT is the bible (or sacred text) of the secular left. Its readers study each word and nod up and down as it is read. Anything unpleasing or contrary to the orthodoxy of the secular left must be couched, denied or de-platformed. It is sad to see an "institution" be destroyed by post-graduate secular zealots - however, as a capitalist, I guess they are giving the paying subscriber exactly what they want. They are now the "paper of their subscribers" vs "the paper of record".

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The real paper of record is the Babylon Bee. It may be satire when it is written but it will be fact within a week.

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Out here in fly-over country the “liberal alliance “ and their cohorts ARE the NAZIs. They burned down cities and destroyed lives for political power.

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Isn't it absolutely fvcking WONDERFUL to live in flyover?! Took my whole family shooting last weekend and it was wonderful - no, liberals, it was an informative event surrounded by friends who understand responsibility and the greatest smoked food evah!

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The hospital in Gaza was never bombed @timcast. CCTV footage proves that the rocket misfired after it was fired from a cemetery behind the hospital. I have the footage with the time stamp. It shows a rocket, not an aerial bomb.

Meanwhile, large accounts online that are likely being paid by HAMAS and IRGC via the subscribe button on @X are spreading lies about Israel dropping an Ariel bomb on the hospital. The hospital wasn’t even directly hit, the parking lot was.

An aerial bomb would have left a crater in the ground, the shock wave from an Israeli bomb would have leveled all surrounding buildings, and it definitely would not have left the hospital solar panels in tact on top of the hospital.

The image of the parking lot below was taken by an Arab Palestinian. Not an Israeli. The image clearly shows that the fire began in the parking lot next to the hospital.

The roof damage on top of the hospital, which is still standing, is more indicative of shrapnel damage from disintegrating components of a rocket.

Palestinian Islamic jihad fired a rocket into the parking lot of a hospital to spread lies and create a fake narrative that @israel dropped an aerial bomb onto s hospital with innocent Palestinian civilians inside.

The hospital was never Bombed! This whole story was fabricated and even shared by sitting members of Congress like @Ilhan for the sake of inciting more hatred against Jews and Israel.

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This really begs the question…. How did 500 people die in the parking lot? Did 500 people even die? The hospital is still in tact. So where are these alleged dead Palestinians?

Has anyone even seen any bodies?

Or are X influencers and others making a fortune off of spreading more Pallywood Propaganda for Iran?

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Many went to the hospital thinking that the Israelis would not bomb them there.

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The Israelis didn’t bomb the hospital.

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Exactly

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Oct 18, 2023·edited Oct 18, 2023

This propaganda reminds me of the sign conspiculously placed in the bombed out munitions factory in Sudan during the Clinton years in the aftermath of a missle strike that retailated against the first trade center bombing proclaiming "baby milk factory" for foreign correspondents to take pictures of and the rest of the world to see. That all seems so amateurish now in light of what can be done on social media. IMO, there is no one more cynical and manipulative than Hamas and the terrorist cabal like them (looking at you, too, Iran).

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Scott Adams had an interesting idea on his podcast today. The context was news that many student organizations had signed petitions in support of Hamas and condemnation of Israel and that some law firms and corporations were essentially using these petitions a blacklists to not hire them. Other examples of fake news were mentioned: Russian collusion, the "fine people" hoax, drinking bleach, et al. His idea is this: Employers could require potential employees to get a Certificate earned by taking a course in how to spot fake news and media bullshit.

It would require a credible curriculum that shows how fake news is produced and disseminated by both the Left and Right. He has a few preliminary ideas on how this program might be structured. This is only the first day so it will be awhile before it gets fleshed out into something practical but it seems like a pretty good idea.

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I guess Sasha’s main point is that they have now stopped pretending to be the newspaper of record, just like Christiane Amanpour said that objectivity was no longer allowed… Because Trump.

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Oct 18, 2023·edited Oct 19, 2023

The Times was the cathedral of journalism when I was a reporter. (I never worked there.)

Now it serves as an indicator of elite opinion.

It was always that but it also did real journalism.

Now all that remains is the opinion.

The paper tries to disguise the opinion as fact but only the credulous fall for the ruse.

The paper's apparent success suggests two things.

One, there are many credulous people.

Two, these credulous people love having their ill-informed views sanctified as The Truth in the Times.

Indeed that seems to be the paper's business model. The bosses of the Times agree with PT Barnum that "There's one born every minute."

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There is security in knowing you are right.

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Especially when that little voice inside your head tells you you're wrong.

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I should delete what I wrote, as you phrased my point much more eloquently and intelligently than I!!

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Oct 19, 2023·edited Oct 19, 2023

Sasha- I love and respect you. The one thing you will always be is interesting. I don’t always agree with you but what two people do? What I get from your writing is interesting, original and kind of outfield perspectives. Thank you for calling out this bullshit. Keep keeping on -and you come from behind enemy lines. It’s awesome.

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“This was all by design. I didn’t know it at the time. No one did. It would not be until after Biden was installed that it became apparent they’d done it all to take down Trump. There were invisible hands everywhere, guiding the New York Times and other outlets to support any narrative that put the blame anywhere else but on Trump.”

I love you, Sasha, and your voice, but this is a common misconception by the red pilled, the people who realize that they were living in a deception.”No one did”—- millions did. Only Dems didn’t understand this. Trump Voters, in 2016 knew the media was lying about everything from 2016 through 2020, and that the Democrats were lying about everything, from Russiagate forward. That they had, in fact, created the narrative and then sold it to the media and their lapdog voters. This is still ongoing. He is not the first, nor the last, but Barack Obama is the most authoritarian and manipulative liar that we have had as president in modern history. Thank God we never had his match, Hillary Clinton, as president, who is not only evil and manipulative, but sold the country out for her millions.

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“from Russiagate forward.”

And the demonization of Putin and Russia with the “Russia collusion” lie profoundly damaged America and the entire world since it led to our wildly insane proxy war on Russia in Ukraine which forced Russia to join with China to fight America and the West. Putin and Russia could have very easily been a friend and a valuable ally. They considered themselves European and wanted to be considered part of the West. We’d have a vastly better and safer world now if our ruling class had been sane enough to take advantage of that. Too late now. God only knows where we’ll all end up.

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That lie has killed a million people on both sides of that conflict. Congratulations Democrats. Your first of many millions dead in search of your utopian goals.

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It's becoming clear that most if not all of our current political crises are the result of Trump derangement and the lengths to which the deranged have gone to keep him out of office.

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Their willingness to have millions die to achieve their goals should be noted. Russiagate led to the Ukraine war. Remember how the Democrats let Russia take Crimea? It has nothing to do with Russia. They see Russia and the Ukrainian people as useful pawns in their chess matches. Killing off millions of foreigners is of no consequence. Soon they will bring it home.

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The second sentence in the quotation is nonsense, and I assume Stone overlooked it in revision.

Pretty obviously the Times and "other outlets supported narratives" that blamed Trump for everything, not "anywhere else but on Trump."

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Clay Travis characterized modern media this way: the media outlets are nothing more than fan sites for Team Blue or Team Red.

If you are a Patriots fan, you aren't subscribing to Patriots Nation because you want read see bad stuff about your team. Patriots Nation isn't going to break stories like Deflate-Gate because it would hurt the team. It is a fan site. It is there to make the readership happy and they want to hear good things about the Pats and bad things about whoever they are playing this week.

The NYT is nothing more than a fanboy site for Team Blue. As is WaPo. The Borg is using lawfare to keep Fox from being a fanboy site for Team Red. Even Fox isn't really Team Red since the journalist profession is solidly Team Blue. It would be like Yankees fans writing for a Red Sox site.

J-School is the indoctrination camp for Team Blue, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Just understand their bias and take everything that surrounds "The Narrative" with a grain of salt.

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I see too many people now believing the Israel version of events in this hospital bombing and especially now that the US has announced that their intelligence supports the Israeli version. Would that be the same US intelligence that still can’t identify who blew up the Nordstream Pipeline and who blamed Russia at first?

You can’t be seriously trusting that intelligence as a credible source.

I trust no official version in the fog of war. None.

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Oct 18, 2023·edited Oct 19, 2023

Go to the New York Post - they have the recording of the terrorists talking between themselves noting that one of their own Islamic factions bombed the hospital. In fact, in past Hamas / Gaza fights - 25% of their own rockets backfire and hit areas in Gaza.

There are a number of sources that are providing real time reporting...but if you're on the LEFT, most likely you're reading propaganda (yes, you Ms. Chastain)....you haven't been told the true in many years. It's a get-your-head-out-of-the-sand-moment.

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It’s difficult when your illusions are proven false, isn’t it? Take some time to reflect, then decide where to go from here.

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Oh wow. No intelligence agency could ever fake that. You must be right to trust them.

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Hamas says Israel did it and Israel says Hamas did it; big surprise. They’re both guilty and immoral for the other innocent children they have been killing and maiming. Shame on both of them.

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It is we who have enabled the whole thing. Funding Hamas while they launched rockets indiscriminately into Israel. Every person in the USA had an ancestor who was a refugee. Not one of us has a right to return to wherever it was that they came from.

They lost. Move on. Or keep fighting and dying taking everyone who isn't interested in that along for human shields.

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