Agreed. I was shocked to hear of this matchup, though my respect for Carlson inspired enough to give it a shot.
I could not get past the first 15 mins.
Cuomo is a pretentious and duplicitous braggart and always will be. His much deserved fall from grace has not humbled him in the least, in spite of his shallow and transparent attempts at humility. His arrogance and condescension during the plandemic was and still is wholly inexcusable. As was/is his pimping of his murderous brother.
Cuomo’s rehabilitation can be a positive thing for him, and for anyone too far down either echo chamber to follow. Especially if Cuomo’s ego continues its slow melt. Cuomo was made somewhat of a pariah following his firing and good that Tucker points out that one only grows thru adversity and ‘not while eating French toast in bed while on vacation’ …I hope they try more conversations in future. Stark differences between Chris & Tucker this go around. Tucker does’t care about anyone’s opinion (or so he says) except those of his family. Chris still very worried about his kids getting ‘damaged’ for googling why he was fired, and says he isn’t holding grudge against all his colleagues who didn’t contact him (and still haven’t) after he was let go from CNN. I didn’t realize that Roger Ailes hired Chris on at Fox back in the day.
I just finished. It was pretty interesting and entertaining. And surprisingly ended up being a sort refreshing diversion from most of the news crap we are constantly absorbing. I recommend it.
Here is Cuomo on PBD podcast, that includes Candace Owens on stage with Chris.... and Owens is so frickin' sharp. This aired just before the interview with Tucker and for me, gave me better feel for Cuomo post-CNN. I learned that Chris is same ol' Chris, that he and Tucker share the same lawyer, and that Cuomo is 'being nice' when he speaks about CNN current/former employees, because he's in process of suing CNN for $125M.
Being a Cosmetologist for 40 years and living a world where talking (to total strangers) is a great deal of the job, I will say, I absolutely believe conversation is not only important but a virtue and soooo direly missing in society. With post covids inhumane lock downs, its virtually eliminated, (hence exasperating our loneliness crisis). So...I applaud the idea here.
Finally finished watching. I learned to appreciate Chris a little more than I had in the past although I’m still a little hesitant about his sincerity. It was interesting to hear him say that he thinks CNN is a wonderful place and he sees future growth instead of sinking ratings. He seems rather naive about its lack of journalistic honesty.
I give him credit for doing this interview and feel it is admirable that he prefer a new civil dialogue. Tucker was unflappably fantastic as always. His genuine no apologies style is always entertaining as well as informative. Thanks for sharing Sasha.
I am dubious like usual... The Cuomo family has benefitted off the taxpayer for generations and have never admitted fault. That said, I hope 'Fredo' actually feels the humility that he should show.
I apologized for voting for W twice as he made grave mistakes; Sasha has shown great humility; I hope Fredo does as well. Then we can start a conversation.
Totally refreshing that two sides are talking - I don’t care who doesn’t like who atm, a move towards discussion face to face is our only hope. Kudos to BOTH men for this move.
I said to my wife, while we were watching, that it was profoundly interesting and entertaining but I wasn’t so sure that we hadn’t wasted two hours…. Nonetheless, Tucker has his moral compass unassailably pointing due North. I’m not so sure about Cuomo. In fact Cuomo came off as a shallow yet smart person trying very hard not to be shallow and not quite making it.
I listened to a bit of this. I don't really know anything about Chris Cuomo. I stopped watching cable news during the first George W. Bush term. But I do think it's a good thing when people talk to each other. I felt like Cuomo came across as a pathetic loser with his sob story about how trying it was for him to be out on his own after all these years. Meanwhile, Tucker just rolled with the punches when Fox set him free and kept smiling the whole time. It reminded me of the data showing the almost complete absence of mental illness in conservative men and the very high levels of mental illness in all liberals.
I won’t watch Chris Cuomo, ever. Well, I might consider it if he leads with loudly apologizing for his arrogance, mocking people, censoring them, etc etc etc. Don’t trust him at all. He’s still one of them.
I just watched Chris Cuomo and Candace Owen’s on the PBD Podcast. It’s a good one to watch. I don’t want to comment on Chris, it’s best to watch for yourself and come to your own conclusions. It seems he’s making the rounds on Independent media. It might be to raise his profile on Newsmax?
Cuomo is on NewsNation not NewsMax. I saw the Owen’s/Cuomo interview. I thought Owen’s was 💯 correct. Cuomo is too biased to admit Putin is an intellectual. He’s KGB. They don’t train retards. Cuomo was trying to discredit Putin’s version of history but couldn’t do it. Finally, if Cuomo was authentic about having these open conversations, the Tucker/Putin interview was even more valuable in that it started a conversation and it came directly from Putin. At least we know a little bit more about Putin’s view point. Cuomo is making the rounds to elevate himself and update his image. We already know who he is and I personally have no interest in his dishonesty.
Thanks for that! I agree with your viewpoint on Owens/Cuomo on PBD. I found that Chris did an extensive amount of talking to a sweet simple yes or no questions, lots of words, going on and on. Things that could have been said in one to two minutes took five to six. This is a classic tactic of deception. That’s what I felt watching him, and I would have had the same impression had I been face to face with him. I’ve met people like this, and it’s familiar to me.
Yes, Chris did dance around quite a bit, especially on the Voter ID subject. One thing I potentially like about Chris going on these shows is that he'll put out the Left position and reasoning for it. That is valuable to 'hear' because these days those positions barely ever get air time (because so many defy common sense). In case of Voter ID, Cuomo gave voice to Left position that there are some who simply don't have an ID, so requiring one disenfranchises those people. To which the Owens and the panel ripped him a new one, saying 'please find me that person without ID... maybe it's the 8-10M illegal immigrants who have entered the country during Biden term?'
What I’m hearing and seeing is a man that was told by his wife to go say whatever you have to say because she’s not shopping at Walmart. She’ll divorce him if she is forced to change her quality of life. He said as much early in the “interview”.
Unfortunately, what actually occurred as a result of this interview is that I lost some respect for Tucker. I think he allowed himself to get taken advantage of here, which makes me think he may be losing his edge. This was Chris Cuomo’s publicity tour designed to make a way back into the public eye and reanimate the corpse of his career. Nothing more.
Yes conversation is generally very good. How do you know if “what” the person is saying is the “truth” or that they’re being authentic? I’m at this place where you can always doubt what people say but believe what they do. At the 1:15 mark, Cuomo says he’d be okay with censorship if it was working. That’s some crazy admission. I suspect he’s feeling the pain of being de-platformed.
During the pandemic he was out and about while telling others to lock down. The jury is still out on Cuomo’s motives and whether or not he’s being authentic. People can change, so there is that…
I listened to PBD podcast (panel) that Chris was on just prior to Tucker interview and Cuomo, in my opinion, is still very much the same old guy. Candace Owens sat next to him (she is so great and just getting better) kept him in check w/ yes & no questions. Chris for example couldn’t agree on Voter ID for elections, and they let him have it for that. My sense is he’s going to try joining circuit as the resident leftist. Like an updated version of Geraldo Rivera on Fox panels. Yes, he’s found a new way to make $, he comes from $ and his wife probably said go figure out how to keep that $ train rollin’ and here we are. I think he likes to hear himself talk but it’s a lot of noise and not a lot of substance. Time will tell but if this is his schtick it will quickly get old, or right leaning shows will have him on to explain left positions to further discussions.
My thought: okay, conversation. This is a positive message and a direction that needs to be focused on. I teach high schoolers and they don’t know how to communicate unless it involves a phone. So this is a good start. The caveat is that in order for communication to be effective there must be a measure of trust involved.
And this is where the breakdown occurs because it seems to me, all of this effort is like trying to explain to everyone outside of DC what happens in DC. How do you adequately describe an environment and culture of insincerity to people who are completely ignorant of that culture? To people who don’t and wouldn’t think of living their lives that way. It’s no wonder why the term “fly-over country” is a thing, because those that would use it absolutely believe it to be true and live their lives as if they will never have to answer for it under those terms.
Regarding “How do you adequately describe an environment and culture of insincerity to people who are completely ignorant of that culture?”; I am doubt that any adult is completely ignorant of that culture; ie a culture of insincerity. They may not be immersed in that culture like DC people are but not are they “completely ignorant” to its existence or characteristics. Further, the vast majority of people inside and outside of DC have their own personal experiences with insincerity both as active producers if it and receivers of it because, well, we’re all very flawed humans. Finally, I agree having a conversation is a good start and am reminded we need to listen and be forgiving and welcoming to those who now want to do the right thing.
Thank you for your reply. I do agree with the points you bring up as they apply to our everyday lives. I guess what I was trying to get at is the tendency for that “street knowledge” or wisdom, whatever you want to call it, to get lost when dealing with our political figures and the way they are characterized by the main stream media. And by “we” I’m speaking of the general public, not your typical Racket News poster.
kudos to both of them for doing that. If everyone in media takes the worst possible view of the other side, (b/c that's where the money is), how can we ever hope to work together as a country? At least they're talking.
I enjoyed this conversation. Chris is definitely a far shallower person in many ways but Tucker told him a truth that other peoples opinions cannot be your North Star ⭐️
I think Chris heard him. I have always found Chris to be a dolt but I think he has more to him especially his loyalty to his family. I think most of the msm personalities don’t have that but Chris I truly believe would put his children, his wife and his family ahead of himself in the worst of situations. That is a very good thing so there’s hope that as he ages he gets better.
I wouldn't cross the street to listen to Chris Cuomo.
I'd cross the street to avoid listening to him.
Agreed. I was shocked to hear of this matchup, though my respect for Carlson inspired enough to give it a shot.
I could not get past the first 15 mins.
Cuomo is a pretentious and duplicitous braggart and always will be. His much deserved fall from grace has not humbled him in the least, in spite of his shallow and transparent attempts at humility. His arrogance and condescension during the plandemic was and still is wholly inexcusable. As was/is his pimping of his murderous brother.
Except when he interviews Tucker.
No, not even then. Cuomo's a jerk who's trying to rehabilitate himself.
Yes, and with that in mind, I will listen to their discussion.
Not me. Not worth my time.
Cuomo’s rehabilitation can be a positive thing for him, and for anyone too far down either echo chamber to follow. Especially if Cuomo’s ego continues its slow melt. Cuomo was made somewhat of a pariah following his firing and good that Tucker points out that one only grows thru adversity and ‘not while eating French toast in bed while on vacation’ …I hope they try more conversations in future. Stark differences between Chris & Tucker this go around. Tucker does’t care about anyone’s opinion (or so he says) except those of his family. Chris still very worried about his kids getting ‘damaged’ for googling why he was fired, and says he isn’t holding grudge against all his colleagues who didn’t contact him (and still haven’t) after he was let go from CNN. I didn’t realize that Roger Ailes hired Chris on at Fox back in the day.
I just finished. It was pretty interesting and entertaining. And surprisingly ended up being a sort refreshing diversion from most of the news crap we are constantly absorbing. I recommend it.
Here is Cuomo on PBD podcast, that includes Candace Owens on stage with Chris.... and Owens is so frickin' sharp. This aired just before the interview with Tucker and for me, gave me better feel for Cuomo post-CNN. I learned that Chris is same ol' Chris, that he and Tucker share the same lawyer, and that Cuomo is 'being nice' when he speaks about CNN current/former employees, because he's in process of suing CNN for $125M.
https://www.youtube.com/live/UywlVtJiHrk?si=f5_MiYv8hoFmuqVC
Aha! I figured there was more going on in the background of this!
Totally agree!
Being a Cosmetologist for 40 years and living a world where talking (to total strangers) is a great deal of the job, I will say, I absolutely believe conversation is not only important but a virtue and soooo direly missing in society. With post covids inhumane lock downs, its virtually eliminated, (hence exasperating our loneliness crisis). So...I applaud the idea here.
Excellent conversation between two guys who clearly disagree each other on policy issues .
BUT they respect each other and allow the other guy to express his views.
This is the way it should be in my opinion.
I want to openly hear the views of people who disagree with me. And I want them to openly listen to me.
Thank you Chris and Tucker.
Thank you Sasha for posting this conversation.
Finally finished watching. I learned to appreciate Chris a little more than I had in the past although I’m still a little hesitant about his sincerity. It was interesting to hear him say that he thinks CNN is a wonderful place and he sees future growth instead of sinking ratings. He seems rather naive about its lack of journalistic honesty.
I give him credit for doing this interview and feel it is admirable that he prefer a new civil dialogue. Tucker was unflappably fantastic as always. His genuine no apologies style is always entertaining as well as informative. Thanks for sharing Sasha.
I am dubious like usual... The Cuomo family has benefitted off the taxpayer for generations and have never admitted fault. That said, I hope 'Fredo' actually feels the humility that he should show.
I apologized for voting for W twice as he made grave mistakes; Sasha has shown great humility; I hope Fredo does as well. Then we can start a conversation.
This was the biggest ice thaw in America! I have hope for ongoing truthful conversations and melting of hearts.
I look forward to listening to this! I think I might be able to squeeze it in on Saturday morning. I appreciate you posting this. God bless!
Totally refreshing that two sides are talking - I don’t care who doesn’t like who atm, a move towards discussion face to face is our only hope. Kudos to BOTH men for this move.
I said to my wife, while we were watching, that it was profoundly interesting and entertaining but I wasn’t so sure that we hadn’t wasted two hours…. Nonetheless, Tucker has his moral compass unassailably pointing due North. I’m not so sure about Cuomo. In fact Cuomo came off as a shallow yet smart person trying very hard not to be shallow and not quite making it.
I listened to a bit of this. I don't really know anything about Chris Cuomo. I stopped watching cable news during the first George W. Bush term. But I do think it's a good thing when people talk to each other. I felt like Cuomo came across as a pathetic loser with his sob story about how trying it was for him to be out on his own after all these years. Meanwhile, Tucker just rolled with the punches when Fox set him free and kept smiling the whole time. It reminded me of the data showing the almost complete absence of mental illness in conservative men and the very high levels of mental illness in all liberals.
I won’t watch Chris Cuomo, ever. Well, I might consider it if he leads with loudly apologizing for his arrogance, mocking people, censoring them, etc etc etc. Don’t trust him at all. He’s still one of them.
Ok, I hate that he still pushes my buttons! His behavior during covid was so awful, it will be awhile, I guess. 🤷🏻♀️
I just watched Chris Cuomo and Candace Owen’s on the PBD Podcast. It’s a good one to watch. I don’t want to comment on Chris, it’s best to watch for yourself and come to your own conclusions. It seems he’s making the rounds on Independent media. It might be to raise his profile on Newsmax?
Thank you for the tip!
Cuomo is on NewsNation not NewsMax. I saw the Owen’s/Cuomo interview. I thought Owen’s was 💯 correct. Cuomo is too biased to admit Putin is an intellectual. He’s KGB. They don’t train retards. Cuomo was trying to discredit Putin’s version of history but couldn’t do it. Finally, if Cuomo was authentic about having these open conversations, the Tucker/Putin interview was even more valuable in that it started a conversation and it came directly from Putin. At least we know a little bit more about Putin’s view point. Cuomo is making the rounds to elevate himself and update his image. We already know who he is and I personally have no interest in his dishonesty.
Thanks for that! I agree with your viewpoint on Owens/Cuomo on PBD. I found that Chris did an extensive amount of talking to a sweet simple yes or no questions, lots of words, going on and on. Things that could have been said in one to two minutes took five to six. This is a classic tactic of deception. That’s what I felt watching him, and I would have had the same impression had I been face to face with him. I’ve met people like this, and it’s familiar to me.
Yes, Chris did dance around quite a bit, especially on the Voter ID subject. One thing I potentially like about Chris going on these shows is that he'll put out the Left position and reasoning for it. That is valuable to 'hear' because these days those positions barely ever get air time (because so many defy common sense). In case of Voter ID, Cuomo gave voice to Left position that there are some who simply don't have an ID, so requiring one disenfranchises those people. To which the Owens and the panel ripped him a new one, saying 'please find me that person without ID... maybe it's the 8-10M illegal immigrants who have entered the country during Biden term?'
What I’m hearing and seeing is a man that was told by his wife to go say whatever you have to say because she’s not shopping at Walmart. She’ll divorce him if she is forced to change her quality of life. He said as much early in the “interview”.
Unfortunately, what actually occurred as a result of this interview is that I lost some respect for Tucker. I think he allowed himself to get taken advantage of here, which makes me think he may be losing his edge. This was Chris Cuomo’s publicity tour designed to make a way back into the public eye and reanimate the corpse of his career. Nothing more.
Here’s what Chris aired after the interview:
https://youtu.be/eFaRaACD058?si=6ccxESR0y_s4H86o
Yes conversation is generally very good. How do you know if “what” the person is saying is the “truth” or that they’re being authentic? I’m at this place where you can always doubt what people say but believe what they do. At the 1:15 mark, Cuomo says he’d be okay with censorship if it was working. That’s some crazy admission. I suspect he’s feeling the pain of being de-platformed.
During the pandemic he was out and about while telling others to lock down. The jury is still out on Cuomo’s motives and whether or not he’s being authentic. People can change, so there is that…
I listened to PBD podcast (panel) that Chris was on just prior to Tucker interview and Cuomo, in my opinion, is still very much the same old guy. Candace Owens sat next to him (she is so great and just getting better) kept him in check w/ yes & no questions. Chris for example couldn’t agree on Voter ID for elections, and they let him have it for that. My sense is he’s going to try joining circuit as the resident leftist. Like an updated version of Geraldo Rivera on Fox panels. Yes, he’s found a new way to make $, he comes from $ and his wife probably said go figure out how to keep that $ train rollin’ and here we are. I think he likes to hear himself talk but it’s a lot of noise and not a lot of substance. Time will tell but if this is his schtick it will quickly get old, or right leaning shows will have him on to explain left positions to further discussions.
Thanks for sharing.
My thought: okay, conversation. This is a positive message and a direction that needs to be focused on. I teach high schoolers and they don’t know how to communicate unless it involves a phone. So this is a good start. The caveat is that in order for communication to be effective there must be a measure of trust involved.
And this is where the breakdown occurs because it seems to me, all of this effort is like trying to explain to everyone outside of DC what happens in DC. How do you adequately describe an environment and culture of insincerity to people who are completely ignorant of that culture? To people who don’t and wouldn’t think of living their lives that way. It’s no wonder why the term “fly-over country” is a thing, because those that would use it absolutely believe it to be true and live their lives as if they will never have to answer for it under those terms.
Regarding “How do you adequately describe an environment and culture of insincerity to people who are completely ignorant of that culture?”; I am doubt that any adult is completely ignorant of that culture; ie a culture of insincerity. They may not be immersed in that culture like DC people are but not are they “completely ignorant” to its existence or characteristics. Further, the vast majority of people inside and outside of DC have their own personal experiences with insincerity both as active producers if it and receivers of it because, well, we’re all very flawed humans. Finally, I agree having a conversation is a good start and am reminded we need to listen and be forgiving and welcoming to those who now want to do the right thing.
Thank you for your reply. I do agree with the points you bring up as they apply to our everyday lives. I guess what I was trying to get at is the tendency for that “street knowledge” or wisdom, whatever you want to call it, to get lost when dealing with our political figures and the way they are characterized by the main stream media. And by “we” I’m speaking of the general public, not your typical Racket News poster.
I’m in full agreement with you on that and I was likely being too rigid in my initial interpretation of your comment. Thank-you for the insight.
kudos to both of them for doing that. If everyone in media takes the worst possible view of the other side, (b/c that's where the money is), how can we ever hope to work together as a country? At least they're talking.
I enjoyed this conversation. Chris is definitely a far shallower person in many ways but Tucker told him a truth that other peoples opinions cannot be your North Star ⭐️
I think Chris heard him. I have always found Chris to be a dolt but I think he has more to him especially his loyalty to his family. I think most of the msm personalities don’t have that but Chris I truly believe would put his children, his wife and his family ahead of himself in the worst of situations. That is a very good thing so there’s hope that as he ages he gets better.