I really love Doug Wilson. He’s a brilliant writer. I’ve posted his videos a few times here, but now, he’s interviewing with Tucker. This is just eight minutes of it, which means the rest will be at TuckerCarlson.com. His Youtube is called Blog & MaBlog.
Good for Tucker having Doug Jones on. I'm agnostic, but I recognize that without a fully Christian renewal of our culture, America is heading towards a dark, totalitarian future. Every intelligent, patriotic atheist, agnostic, etc., must support our Christian brothers and sisters in this effort.
The left really does hate Christianity. Why? Because it is the antidote to everything they are trying to impose on us. Values, Christian values are being denigrated and disparaged. These people who believe that saying our rights are "God given" are in a cult are the ring leaders of the group who want to rule us.
Mr Wilson speaks of the need for pastors raised up by God, who would lead us to repentance. It reminds me that in the 50s and 60s Billy Graham's revivals were wildly popular in the US and Europe. Some 910,000 people packed the Los Angeles Coliseum during his 1963 Crusade alone. I remember as a youngster our parents ordering us to sit down and watch his sermons,"crusades", on live TV. Pope John Paul II I think helped bring about a similar revival among Catholics in the 70s and 80s.
I’ve never heard of Doug Wilson, but that was a solid interview chock full of basic wisdom. Consider what a juxtaposition it was to the Bryan “moon brah” Johnson interview, whom I’ve also never heard of. Both of these guys have regular dinners with lots of guests. If I get to choose, I’m going to Doug’s. And thanks to TC for his wide range of guests.
Here we see Tucker doing The Same thing he did with Munther Isaac. Why Not bring someone (Level Playing Field) who has a problem/different view on Christian Nationalism? Let them have a Conversation. That way people Might actually understand What Is Going On. Christian Nationalism, s a wonderful term. It means whatever you want it to mean. For many many people it means I'm a Christian and I Love My County. BUT there are those pushing something else.
Christian Nationalism has been in the news a lot lately, but what exactly is it, what's the real problem it poses, and what does pudding have to do with it???
Skye Jethani answers these questions and shows that Christian Nationalism and the Prosperity Gospel have a lot more in common than what we might think - Jesus isn't the goal, but a means to receive what they really want.
Christian Nationalism: The Danger and the Draw | Dr. William Roach
Christian Nationalism is a divisive movement within evangelical circles, with some seeing it as a stabilizing force in a turbulent society while others argue it blurs the separation between Church and State, resembling totalitarian regimes. Defining Christian Nationalism is challenging, as various factions offer local interpretations, leaving room for manipulation by progressive movements through linguistic tactics. Some Reformed Christian Nationalists criticize the Woke movement's subjectivity but inadvertently adopt their own form of subjective epistemology. Popular expressions of Christian Nationalism often mix elements of Scholastic Reformed Protestantism with Hegelian social and governmental ideas and draw influence from theonomists seeking to impose ancient Israel's laws, even advocating for new blasphemy laws. These positions ignore America's foundations of religious freedom and free speech. Some segments of the movement risk undermining the Reformation's core principles in pursuit of political expediency, forgetting that the Reformation emphasized grace, faith, Christ, Scripture, and the glory of God alone, not compromising these principles for political gain.
-Dr. William Roach.
An Atheist & a Christian Debate Christian Nationalism | Guest: James Lindsay | Ep 793
Today we're joined again by our friend James Lindsay, founder of New Discourses, to discuss Christian nationalism. We first look at how prominent Christian figures define Christian nationalism and how it's easy for conservative Christians to accept a definition of Christian nationalism that can result in unwarranted control over all Christians. Where is the line between morality shaped by a biblical worldview and Christian nationalism, and who decides which worldview shapes policy? We debate a bit where right and wrong and the basis of law come from, then discuss James' quote-tweet of Allie's Nashville shooting take and why he doesn't disagree with her, he's just weary of the Left's trap to fragment the population. We share the truth behind the trans movement and the false omniscience necessary for that worldview
I've had a chance to read Mr Wilson's web log, and he is indeed an engaging writer. I agree with him on many points, but I strongly disagree with him on what appears to be his salient point - that there should be an established religion, namely, his brand of Christianity, in the United States. The First Amendment in the Bill of Rights explicitly proscribes such an establishment, and for very good reason, set out in the following quote from a review of Mr Wilson's book, "Mere Christendom":
"In Wilson’s ideal Christian republic, “the Church must be established, in the sense that the magistrate has the responsibility to recognize her, to convene synods and councils to seek her counsel, and to listen to her” (69). Notice the singular “Church.” And again I ask, which Church? Maybe in an episcopal or presbyterian form of church government all local churches would be part of a larger body, but what of the Baptists, Congregationalists, and Bible churches. How would they fit in? Again I say, Baptist theology is incompatible with the notion of Christendom.
The second problem stems from the first. In order to achieve a mere Christendom in which a Presbyterian Congress is not flogging Baptists, the doctrinal basis for such a “non-sectarian” Christendom (71) must be reduced to the Apostles’ Creed. Would Roman Catholics, then, be welcomed to the table of Christendom and recognized as Christians? I can appreciate the value of Presbyterians and Baptists happily affirming one another as Christian and working together on various parachurch ministries, all while maintaining their denominational distinctives at the church level; but if the Apostles’ Creed is our only measure of what constitutes Christianity, then we would have to recognize as Christian those who affirm creedal trinitarianism and Christology but who deny justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. For that matter, Mormons could technically affirm the Apostles’ Creed. I am aware that Wilson’s church recognizes Roman Catholic baptisms and welcomes them to the Lord’s Table, but this Baptist considers Roman Catholicism a false religion." https://g3min.org/a-review-of-mere-christendom-by-doug-wilson/
There will be Christians who view Mr WIlson as an outright heretic, many tiny fundamentalist denominations view anyone outside their denomination's doors as bound for hellfire and damnation. Basing a system of governance on that would be a disaster, a basis for a religious war, and that we have no need for. The principal question is, whose Christianity?
And this has come up before in our history, and one of the drafters of the Bill of Rights, answered this question:
"To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
"Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.
I have added the full episode to the post.
Good for Tucker having Doug Jones on. I'm agnostic, but I recognize that without a fully Christian renewal of our culture, America is heading towards a dark, totalitarian future. Every intelligent, patriotic atheist, agnostic, etc., must support our Christian brothers and sisters in this effort.
Amen.
“I am the way, the truth, and the life.”
~ Jesus
“ America needs Jesus”
I can’t improve on that statement.
The left really does hate Christianity. Why? Because it is the antidote to everything they are trying to impose on us. Values, Christian values are being denigrated and disparaged. These people who believe that saying our rights are "God given" are in a cult are the ring leaders of the group who want to rule us.
Glad I subscribe to Tucker. And excellent interview even if I disagree with Wilson on a point or two.
Mr Wilson speaks of the need for pastors raised up by God, who would lead us to repentance. It reminds me that in the 50s and 60s Billy Graham's revivals were wildly popular in the US and Europe. Some 910,000 people packed the Los Angeles Coliseum during his 1963 Crusade alone. I remember as a youngster our parents ordering us to sit down and watch his sermons,"crusades", on live TV. Pope John Paul II I think helped bring about a similar revival among Catholics in the 70s and 80s.
EXcellent. Now I need to listen to the whole interview. Thank you, Sasha.
Just finished the entire interview. Excellent-
I’ve never heard of Doug Wilson, but that was a solid interview chock full of basic wisdom. Consider what a juxtaposition it was to the Bryan “moon brah” Johnson interview, whom I’ve also never heard of. Both of these guys have regular dinners with lots of guests. If I get to choose, I’m going to Doug’s. And thanks to TC for his wide range of guests.
I didn’t “hear”. Best of luck.
Doug Wilson speaks truth here, but before we turn him into some kind of hero, look into his beliefs. There is much to be wary of.
Here we see Tucker doing The Same thing he did with Munther Isaac. Why Not bring someone (Level Playing Field) who has a problem/different view on Christian Nationalism? Let them have a Conversation. That way people Might actually understand What Is Going On. Christian Nationalism, s a wonderful term. It means whatever you want it to mean. For many many people it means I'm a Christian and I Love My County. BUT there are those pushing something else.
Ok here we go. THIS is going to Get Me in Trouble...AGAIN.
1:17 Rare American Christian Pastors? You have to get out more Tucker. Its The Flavor of The Month.
The REAL Problem with Christian Nationalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmjDg9cMMg
Oct 3, 2023
Christian Nationalism has been in the news a lot lately, but what exactly is it, what's the real problem it poses, and what does pudding have to do with it???
Skye Jethani answers these questions and shows that Christian Nationalism and the Prosperity Gospel have a lot more in common than what we might think - Jesus isn't the goal, but a means to receive what they really want.
Christian Nationalism: The Danger and the Draw | Dr. William Roach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyGRxpn1cs&t=1576s
Sep 15, 2023 #christiannationalism #sovereignnations
With Liberty & Justice For All, Session 7
Christian Nationalism is a divisive movement within evangelical circles, with some seeing it as a stabilizing force in a turbulent society while others argue it blurs the separation between Church and State, resembling totalitarian regimes. Defining Christian Nationalism is challenging, as various factions offer local interpretations, leaving room for manipulation by progressive movements through linguistic tactics. Some Reformed Christian Nationalists criticize the Woke movement's subjectivity but inadvertently adopt their own form of subjective epistemology. Popular expressions of Christian Nationalism often mix elements of Scholastic Reformed Protestantism with Hegelian social and governmental ideas and draw influence from theonomists seeking to impose ancient Israel's laws, even advocating for new blasphemy laws. These positions ignore America's foundations of religious freedom and free speech. Some segments of the movement risk undermining the Reformation's core principles in pursuit of political expediency, forgetting that the Reformation emphasized grace, faith, Christ, Scripture, and the glory of God alone, not compromising these principles for political gain.
-Dr. William Roach.
An Atheist & a Christian Debate Christian Nationalism | Guest: James Lindsay | Ep 793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqsJxiiEa5U
Apr 24, 2023 'Relatable' Full Podcast Episodes
Today we're joined again by our friend James Lindsay, founder of New Discourses, to discuss Christian nationalism. We first look at how prominent Christian figures define Christian nationalism and how it's easy for conservative Christians to accept a definition of Christian nationalism that can result in unwarranted control over all Christians. Where is the line between morality shaped by a biblical worldview and Christian nationalism, and who decides which worldview shapes policy? We debate a bit where right and wrong and the basis of law come from, then discuss James' quote-tweet of Allie's Nashville shooting take and why he doesn't disagree with her, he's just weary of the Left's trap to fragment the population. We share the truth behind the trans movement and the false omniscience necessary for that worldview
I've had a chance to read Mr Wilson's web log, and he is indeed an engaging writer. I agree with him on many points, but I strongly disagree with him on what appears to be his salient point - that there should be an established religion, namely, his brand of Christianity, in the United States. The First Amendment in the Bill of Rights explicitly proscribes such an establishment, and for very good reason, set out in the following quote from a review of Mr Wilson's book, "Mere Christendom":
"In Wilson’s ideal Christian republic, “the Church must be established, in the sense that the magistrate has the responsibility to recognize her, to convene synods and councils to seek her counsel, and to listen to her” (69). Notice the singular “Church.” And again I ask, which Church? Maybe in an episcopal or presbyterian form of church government all local churches would be part of a larger body, but what of the Baptists, Congregationalists, and Bible churches. How would they fit in? Again I say, Baptist theology is incompatible with the notion of Christendom.
The second problem stems from the first. In order to achieve a mere Christendom in which a Presbyterian Congress is not flogging Baptists, the doctrinal basis for such a “non-sectarian” Christendom (71) must be reduced to the Apostles’ Creed. Would Roman Catholics, then, be welcomed to the table of Christendom and recognized as Christians? I can appreciate the value of Presbyterians and Baptists happily affirming one another as Christian and working together on various parachurch ministries, all while maintaining their denominational distinctives at the church level; but if the Apostles’ Creed is our only measure of what constitutes Christianity, then we would have to recognize as Christian those who affirm creedal trinitarianism and Christology but who deny justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. For that matter, Mormons could technically affirm the Apostles’ Creed. I am aware that Wilson’s church recognizes Roman Catholic baptisms and welcomes them to the Lord’s Table, but this Baptist considers Roman Catholicism a false religion." https://g3min.org/a-review-of-mere-christendom-by-doug-wilson/
There will be Christians who view Mr WIlson as an outright heretic, many tiny fundamentalist denominations view anyone outside their denomination's doors as bound for hellfire and damnation. Basing a system of governance on that would be a disaster, a basis for a religious war, and that we have no need for. The principal question is, whose Christianity?
And this has come up before in our history, and one of the drafters of the Bill of Rights, answered this question:
"To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802." https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
"Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.
- JC