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Yep. The same playbook was used against Trump. This is a longer essay just launched in The City Journal today.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/watergate-and-nixons-resignation-50-years-on

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Absolutely. The LEFTIST MEDIA’s greatest victory was the Washington Post using some relatively minor political misconduct to remove from office a sitting U.S. President who had been elected in a landslide. It was an unprecedented event in U.S. history. It demonstrated the fantastic power of the leftist media.

The worse news is: They're planning to do it again in 2025, if Trump wins. https://open.substack.com/pub/michael796/p/a-biden-conspiracy-theory-you-havent

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Trump wouldn't have broken into his own psychiatrist's office.

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Watergate a scam?? Imagine my surprise….

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You are just jealous that you weren't a plumber.

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I vividly remember President Nixon's resignation 50 years ago. I was a young graduate student at the time. I have always noticed a similarity between the hatred of Nixon and the hatred of Trump (TDS is even more intense than was the hatred of Nixon). Don't bypass this interview because you are too young to remember Watergate or because you have already formed opinions about Watergate. Every American who cares about the USA should watch this both for its historical interest and for its contemporary implications.

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You should watch the interviews and actual tapes from everyone otherwise you get an echo chamber of his loyalists only.

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The more information the merrier. It is leftists who like to suppress news. But realistically not everybody is going to have time to research everything. This guy was in the Nixon White House (he was young at the time, but he was a White House fellow out of Harvard Law School, not a random employee) and he has been researching this stuff for a very long time. I would give a lot of weight to his research. I'm sure he's not infallible (none of us are) but he is credible.

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Credible on somethings some just partisan wishful thinking

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Maybe you should go through his research bit by bit and see if you find any evidence that anything was just "partisan wishful thinking." I found his methodology quite credible.

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No doubt it is. HL3 is just an obsessed troll who always says things like this. He’s been here twice before with different names. Makes no sense for him to keep coming here to say things like this but that’s his quirk. I also remember this well. I was 24 at the time many moons ago but I’m actually still quite young physically due to many years of an intermittent fasting diet and supplements like curcumin/bioperine. There is such a flood of horrible but important information now every day that it’s impossible to keep up. I also follow AI every day. Quite amazing. Here’s a good one I just watched. I’m familiar with this Julia McCoy. She’s a good one to follow for the latest AI info. The best of times. The worst of times.

“The world is changing- Huge AI advancements in robotics just happened.” (1 min)

Julia McCoy. Aug 9, 2024

https://youtube.com/shorts/OI1vPRfnN2o?si=Yx0G62lPC-Al4KER

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I do troll only to offer to offer a counter message in this echo chamber of conservatism which this substack rapidly devolved into.

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Long but fascinating account Geoff Shepard is an amazingly brilliant guy. Today the 1 hr. documentary is available on his website. Documentary title is Watergate Secrets. Highly recommend for anyone not able to sit through the long Tucker interview.

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Schumer - "You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you, so even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this."

https://x.com/DanODonnellShow/status/1556997120556679168

Schumer started this interview with Rachel Maddow (a week before Trump was sworn in) saying he was "invigorated" by "our ability to succeed in this challenge" of destroying Trump after he was in office.

After the 6 ways to Sunday quote, he goes on to answer her question of what would the intelligence community actually do to Trump if they were "motivated". He answers, (smiling) "...from what I am told, they are very upset with the way he has treated them and talked about them. And we need the intelligence community...<smirk to the camera> ...we don't know what's gonna, uh, look at the Russian hacking; without the intelligence community, we wouldn't have, uh, discovered it..."

Yeah, without the intelligence community, they wouldn't have, UH, "discovered" it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OYyXv2l4-I

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Another 4 years of democrat control will bring us another 10 million illegals but most democrat voters simply don’t care because they’ve been told for the past 8 years that Trump is “another Hitler!” and even open borders is better than that. Even when after the debate with Trump and it was no longer possible to hide Biden’s dementia there was still at least a third of voters supporting him because they believed, even with rapidly worsening dementia, he was still better than “another Hitler!”

But what this means is that our society is too polarized to be governable. This will lead to ever worsening social breakdown which will lead to the breakup of the country since commonality has been replaced with ever more intense hatred and distrust for each other. This is why I believe only AI will be powerful enough to alter the momentum propelling us to the abyss. Elon is the one to follow with his X.AI, his AI powered robot Optimus and his ever worsening war with our Western Woke ruling class and their media. He is indeed one of the most powerful men in the world.

"Elon Musk ... has to be now, even more than Biden, the most powerful human being on the planet," Mr Gewolb told Sky News host Gabriella Power.

Elon Musk’s interview with Donald Trump will be ‘something special.’ (3 min)

Sky News Australia. Aug 8, 2024

https://youtu.be/oTtMBwFjqD0?si=qEbk6TtB39XMny87

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Dean as council to Nixon knew Nixon knew nothing about the break in. So Dean came up with the idea of trapping him with a cover up charge. It all has to do with the “smoking gun “ tape that wasn’t at all what it seemed to be. But what convinced Nixon to resign. In 2016 Dean fessed up ( in a foot note) about what that tape was really about.

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Thanks

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I don't see any evidence that "Watergate was a scam". The burglary was a crazy idea from a half-crazy man. I think I can answer the question of why the CIA did not object: their guys had been told to do whatever Liddy told them to do. And in later days, Nixon was up to his eyeballs in obstruction of justice. There is, for example, the 18.5 minute gap in one of the tapes.

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It turns out that though given reprieve in order to testify, John Dean was the person in charge of the “cover-up”. Dean acknowledges that Nixon never knew about the burglary until he read about it in the newspaper. Seems to have been at a minimum a stupid idea from Gordon Liddy assisted by the CIA.

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It was Watergate that spawned the saying "It's not the crime: it's the cover-up". I am pretty sure that the 18.5 minute gap did not include evidence that would have exonerated Nixon, or talk about the weather.

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Its people like Geoff and Ben Stein who romanticize Nixon and never understood why he was guilty.

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Why didn't Nixon call it out as a scam?

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He never knew the truth.

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Yes, what this interview reveals is the whole swath of documents that have become available in the last 25 years, including many after Nixon died. These documents show the kind of collusion nobody could’ve imagined — between three letter agencies, judges, Democrats in the Congress, and the prosecutors. It’s all in writing from the archives and similar places

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He never watched television where it was exposed in detail?

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Only the information that fit the narrative was allowed in court. Until you actually listen to the discussion & all the investigative work Mr. Shepard spent a good deal of his life on you won’t have a clue what the real story is.

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When and where did it ever get into court?

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he was more honest than Trump.?

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He was certainly more knowledgeable and experienced in the operation of the executive branch of the federal government than Trump was when he left office.

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omg now they are rewriting history of a bad president what's next rewriting the history of Hoover saying he was a great guy?

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It doesn’t bother you that Mark Felt, asst director of the FBI, was the source (Deep Throat) for most of Woodward & Bernstein’s information? That the country cheered while (unbeknownst to them) the FBI took down a President who won election in a landslide?

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Doesnt bother you that GOP are so busy changing history on GOP to better reflect their presidents whats next Hoover and G W Bush ? Its very clear they wanted to do it for a long time now thats why not a single GOP is on many conservatives worst 10 presidents all Democrats.

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Since you didn’t answer the question, I’ll take that to mean you are just fine with FBI orchestrating the impeachment of a President who won in a landslide. No problem here, just move on and talk about who Repubs might think are the worst Presidents.

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Can’t argue with a liberal, refuses to answer question. Just ignore

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Or they just live in the basement.

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So true.

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He’s a nutcase. This is his third time here with a new name. You called him out after the second. He always talks about “both sides bad but republicans worse.” His grammar is often so bad that he doesn’t even make sense. He was gone for a while but then came back with a new name but same old dysfunctional reasoning.

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Since you wont answer my question so fuck both of us :P

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How do we know it was fake stuff? GOP constantly try to change history.

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Get sober. Then come back, and we'll talk.

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You mean redpill myself and become like you?

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Hoover was a great guy compared to Wray.

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Much cuter in a dress too.

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I doubt he ever appeared before Congress in one.

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Well not publicly of course. 😂

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I doubt if Congress could hide an obvious executive session in drag.

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Lol. I am not sure; they convinced the MSM that Biden wasn’t senile or corrupt for years after he was fully both.

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Hoover WAS a great guy. Look at the sum total of his life outside the White House!

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Jimmy Carter was the same way

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Nixon was the most popular president in modern history. Either watch the interview or the documentary to speak to the facts if what went down.

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Kindly cite the replicated statistics that indicate that presumption.

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As I recall, in 1972 Nixon won 49 of 50 states. That sounds pretty popular to me. Other presidents were popular too, Reagan for example.

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I voted for him and also for Reagan. My parents used to say democrats liked the communists. Some did. Now they all do although communism now is race based, Woke!, instead of class based as it was then. It has mutated into a much deadlier virus.

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The electoral college is a very poor indicator of mass popularity.

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Nixon did get over 60 percent of the popular vote. I don't know exactly where he ranked in popularity among presidents, but he was certainly popular.

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The popular vote is a very poor indicator of the electoral college votes, especially if anyone is engaged in the level of ballot stuffing as has been evident in the last two presidential elections.

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Opinion is not facts and that is what documentaries and interview push

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It depends on who funded the documentary.

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And the partisan nature behind it

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Partisan considerations are like crack if you don't ignore them.

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It's ironic, cause now it's so mask forever blue, but my town, still apparently likes President Hoover so much his name is still on lots of things--parks, schools, think tanks and what not.

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Vacuum cleaners

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If you read biographical information on Hoover, you will find plenty of good stuff that he did leading up to his presidency. Of course, he had the misfortune of being the scapegoat for the Great Depression. He lived to an old age, and I remember him being around as an elder statesman in my younger years.

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In other words no matter how bad a GOP acts they will always be considered a good president and Democrats always bad.

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That is not what I said. What I said was that Hoover did a lot of good things in the time leading up to his presidency. Famine relief was a big one. I personally knew a lady who was rescued from probable starvation as a child because of Herbert Hoover's work.

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I know what you said and I know people who said similar things like you have a deep sated hate for any democrat who was president.

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Continue in your fantasy life. Sad.

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I read conservative websites not a fantasy

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