I have never understood the description of Obama being a good orator. I couldn't stand listening to his "umm.... umm...umm" throughout his speeches (like nails on a chalkboard to me).
His delivery was sooooo fake and pretentious.
His pauses revealing his hubris and arrogance.
His droning on as if he is the only one with the answers..... Yuck!
I have never understood the description of Obama being a good orator. I couldn't stand listening to his "umm.... umm...umm" throughout his speeches (like nails on a chalkboard to me).
His delivery was sooooo fake and pretentious.
His pauses revealing his hubris and arrogance.
His droning on as if he is the only one with the answers..... Yuck!
I’d never heard of Obama before. I walked into the living room while my husband was watching tv and heard a guy speaking - it was awful and creeped me out. I went around to see who it was, didn’t recognize him, asked my husband. He told me it was some Senator (Obama). I could literally never listen to him, starting then, and still can’t figure out the appeal or the “great orator” thing. Needless to say, we didn’t vote for him
Obama has a phony, ‘prep-school’, accent in his speaking voice. Trump, despite his ‘rich guy’ persona, has a very real and very american regional accent, which any New Yorker knows is the ‘Long Island’ accent, which includes the Queens accent, but not the Brooklyn accent. This is a very difficult to fake for foreign speaker. In any case, it means that Trump had early education in a the New York City school system, where most students are working class.
Thx MD. I latch-on to dialects/accents, and thus appreciate the NY analysis. And so correct about Obama....preppy-fake until...until he's talking to a black group and then he slips into a mild black dialect.
That’s because Obama was a prep school student raised almost completely by his rich white grandparents in Hawaii. He probably never met a black person from the guetto until he went to college. Obama was always a rich elitist with comtempt and derision for common Americans, especially white middle class people “clinging to their God, their guns” and their patriotism. Obama is a complete fraud.
Yes, he went to an elite private school in Hawaii and an elite private school in Indonesia after his mother married an Indonesian govt official. Then he had the gaul to market himself as a man of the people.
He went to a catholic school and public school (for government employees) in Indonesia. He earned a scholarship to attend a public school in hawaii as his grandparents were poor.
Re Indonesia: two schools— first is Besuki school, second Catholic St. Francis of Assisi
“The school was founded in 1934 as Carpentier Alting Stichting Nassau School (CAS)[1] by the Dutch colonial administration and was reserved for Dutch children and children of the Indonesian nobility. The Indonesian government took over administration of the school in 1962, and has since been run by the Raden Saleh Foundation.
Notable former students include the children of Bambang Trihatmodjo, son of former president Suharto, the grandchildren of former vice presidents Hamzah Haz and Try Sutrisno, as well as the dutch author Tonke Dragt. In 1970–71, US President Barack Obama attended the school for one and a half years.[2]”
“President Obama attended St. Francis of Assisi school, a Roman-Catholic school in Jakarta, for nearly three years while he lived in Indonesia, but most of the public attention about that time period has fallen on Besuki school, a rival Muslim school the president also attended briefly.”
I found this — says Obama’s fam is middle class, not poor. Also interesting about the transgender cook.
“Obama's mother met a transgender person named Evie (who was known as Trudi at the time), at a cocktail party in 1969. Dunham was so impressed by Evie's beef steak and fried rice that she offered her a job in the family home. It did not take long before Evie was also caretaker for then eight-year-old "Barry", as Obama was often referred to as then, and his baby sister Maya. As a caretaker, she also spent time playing with Obama and bringing him to and from school, which she continued to do for about two years.[25]
In 1970, Soetoro took a new job at higher pay in Union Oil Company's government relations office.[4][22][26][27][28][29] From January 1970 to August 1972, Obama's mother taught English and was a department head and a director of the Institute of Management Education and Development.[24] Obama attended the Indonesian-language government-run Besuki School, one-and-half miles east in the exclusive Menteng administrative village, for part of 3rd grade and for 4th grade. By this time, he had picked up on some Indonesian in addition to his native English.[22]He also joined the Cub Scouts.[30]
In his memoir Obama describes his experiences growing up in his mother's middle class family.”
“When he was 10 years of age, his mother shipped him back from Indonesia to his grandparents in Hawaii so that young Barack could get a first-class American education. He entered Punahou, the expensive and most prestigious prep school in the islands. From there, despite his admittedly indifferent grades, Obama was admitted to Occidental, an elite private college in Los Angeles. He spent two years there, after which he transferred to Columbia University, one of the private Ivy League schools. After Columbia, Obama attended Harvard Law, another private Ivy League school.”
“Punahou occupies a privileged position, not just on the hillside, but in Hawaii society. In his memoir, Dreams From My Father,Barack Obama recalled how his grandfather pulled strings to get him in.”
And now Biden puts the shive into Israel, and favors Hamas. How much bribe money does Biden take from Iran now? Are you ready for Sharia law? I am not.
Obama's grandfather was a furniture salesman, i.e. an Al Bundy. If Obama had contempt for the middle class growing up it was because his family was working class. You're complete ignorance is overwhelming.
“The family then moved to Honolulu, Hawaii, where Dunham found a better furniture store opportunity. Madelyn Dunham started working at the Bank of Hawaii in 1960, and was promoted as one of the bank's first female vice presidents in 1970.[15][16]”
His grandmother was a bank president. I don’t think they were poor. You said he got a scholarship to Punahou but I quoted above that Obama himself said his grandfather pulled strings to get him admitted. Any sources for the info you are posting? (Edit: in the Wikipedia entry for Madelyn Dunham—Obama’s grandmother—it says he got scholarships for Punahou’s tuition. You were right about that but his fam in Hawaii were not poor— Madelyn was a vice president for a Seattle bank before they moved to Hawaii and Stanley was the manager of a furniture store.)
Obama truly believes he is the only one with answers.
Carnival barker, con man - that's Obama. It is nearly impossible to do now that the internet has been scrubbed of most, if not all, of the investigative journalism (yes, it did exist at one time) pieces done during his rise to prominence in Chicago. But if you do find any, you'll also find a common thread - he was created out of very thin air. (The stuff I read back in the 07-09 time frame was just like most of the political dystopia movies.)
Look at their policies, not what they say. Totalitarian control. Loss of liberty. Erasure of free speech. Confiscation of personal firearms. Continuous useless wars. Depopulation objectives. Force people to eat bugs, not meat. Confiscation of farmland. Insane lunacy of the global warming hoax. Shutdown of nuclear, coal and oil. Forcing solar panels and windmills which don’t provide baseload reliable power. Vast internet censorship. Spying on individual peoples. Forced immigration all over the world. Trampling religious freedom. Promotion of degenerate sexual behaviors . Global corporations dictating policies with zero regard for the rights and will of the common people. Shall I go on?
They are exactly the same thing. Socialists. The Ribbentrop Molotov Non Aggression Pact made them partners, carving up Poland. Until Hitler broke the Pact. Hitler made a run for the Russian oil fields in Baku, Azerbaijan . Stalin’s Red Army blocked them. Then came Operation Barbarossa, Hitler’s invasion of Mother Russia. The winter stopped the invasion, just like it stopped Napoleon’s Grande Armie. Hitler was forced to make gasoline and diesel fuel from coal gasification.
Ukraine is absolutely NONE of our business. This a fight between Russia and Germany. A repeat. And yes, Germany is digging coal again. Solar panels and wind mills are a cruel joke. Low density energy.
Drill, baby, drill. Nuke it for super high energy density.
OBAMA is a tool of the devil, and was created out of YEARS of media-induced 'white guilt' --- white voters felt compelled to prove they were not racists.
The irony is he was raised by his mother’s side of the fam and hardly knew his dad’s side. His mother died at age 52. He has attributed his formation mainly to his grandmother, a midwesterner. Honestly, how deep was/is his connection to “black America”?
“Obama said about her during an interview with Diane Sawyer, "She never got a college education but is one of the smartest people I know. ... She's where I get my practical streak. That part of me that's hardheaded, I get from her. She's tough as nails". Obama said his iconic image of his grandmother was seeing her come home from work and trading her business outfit and girdle for a muumuu, some slippers and a drink and a cigarette.[16]
On October 20, 2008, the Obama campaign announced that he would suspend campaign events on October 23 and 24 to spend some time with Dunham. His communications director told reporters that she had fallen ill in the preceding weeks, and that while she was released from the hospital the week before, her health had deteriorated "to the point where her situation is very serious".[30] In an October 23, 2008, interview with CBS News, Obama said, "She has really been the rock of the family, the foundation of the family. Whatever strength, discipline – that – that I have – it comes from her".[31]”
(....unlike PatrickMahomes who has a black father/white mother, Obama pigmented darker, and thus identified as 'black' at some point. Its in one of his books... )
He made one statement that has remained at the core of the Democrat party and provides its "north star": "we will reward our friends and punish our enemies". If you want to know where the personality of the current Democrat party originated, it is there.
Interesting. I’m no Obama fan, but it did seem like one of his strengths was his impeccable speaking ability. He came across as polished and articulate, so I can understand why people were drawn to him. He definitely came across as more “presidential” than Trump, who was brash and confrontational. So mainstream people felt safe with Obama, even though to those of us paying attention he was a complete fraud. That’s my take anyway.
I have never understood the description of Obama being a good orator. I couldn't stand listening to his "umm.... umm...umm" throughout his speeches (like nails on a chalkboard to me).
His delivery was sooooo fake and pretentious.
His pauses revealing his hubris and arrogance.
His droning on as if he is the only one with the answers..... Yuck!
I’d never heard of Obama before. I walked into the living room while my husband was watching tv and heard a guy speaking - it was awful and creeped me out. I went around to see who it was, didn’t recognize him, asked my husband. He told me it was some Senator (Obama). I could literally never listen to him, starting then, and still can’t figure out the appeal or the “great orator” thing. Needless to say, we didn’t vote for him
Obama has a phony, ‘prep-school’, accent in his speaking voice. Trump, despite his ‘rich guy’ persona, has a very real and very american regional accent, which any New Yorker knows is the ‘Long Island’ accent, which includes the Queens accent, but not the Brooklyn accent. This is a very difficult to fake for foreign speaker. In any case, it means that Trump had early education in a the New York City school system, where most students are working class.
Thx MD. I latch-on to dialects/accents, and thus appreciate the NY analysis. And so correct about Obama....preppy-fake until...until he's talking to a black group and then he slips into a mild black dialect.
That’s because Obama was a prep school student raised almost completely by his rich white grandparents in Hawaii. He probably never met a black person from the guetto until he went to college. Obama was always a rich elitist with comtempt and derision for common Americans, especially white middle class people “clinging to their God, their guns” and their patriotism. Obama is a complete fraud.
Yes, he went to an elite private school in Hawaii and an elite private school in Indonesia after his mother married an Indonesian govt official. Then he had the gaul to market himself as a man of the people.
He went to a catholic school and public school (for government employees) in Indonesia. He earned a scholarship to attend a public school in hawaii as his grandparents were poor.
Re Indonesia: two schools— first is Besuki school, second Catholic St. Francis of Assisi
“The school was founded in 1934 as Carpentier Alting Stichting Nassau School (CAS)[1] by the Dutch colonial administration and was reserved for Dutch children and children of the Indonesian nobility. The Indonesian government took over administration of the school in 1962, and has since been run by the Raden Saleh Foundation.
Notable former students include the children of Bambang Trihatmodjo, son of former president Suharto, the grandchildren of former vice presidents Hamzah Haz and Try Sutrisno, as well as the dutch author Tonke Dragt. In 1970–71, US President Barack Obama attended the school for one and a half years.[2]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Elementary_School_Menteng_01#:~:text=State%20Elementary%20School%20Menteng%2001%20(Indonesian%3A%20Sekolah%20Dasar%20Negeri%20(,was%20growing%20up%20in%20Indonesia.
“President Obama attended St. Francis of Assisi school, a Roman-Catholic school in Jakarta, for nearly three years while he lived in Indonesia, but most of the public attention about that time period has fallen on Besuki school, a rival Muslim school the president also attended briefly.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/indoschool-letters/
Bullshit,
I found this — says Obama’s fam is middle class, not poor. Also interesting about the transgender cook.
“Obama's mother met a transgender person named Evie (who was known as Trudi at the time), at a cocktail party in 1969. Dunham was so impressed by Evie's beef steak and fried rice that she offered her a job in the family home. It did not take long before Evie was also caretaker for then eight-year-old "Barry", as Obama was often referred to as then, and his baby sister Maya. As a caretaker, she also spent time playing with Obama and bringing him to and from school, which she continued to do for about two years.[25]
In 1970, Soetoro took a new job at higher pay in Union Oil Company's government relations office.[4][22][26][27][28][29] From January 1970 to August 1972, Obama's mother taught English and was a department head and a director of the Institute of Management Education and Development.[24] Obama attended the Indonesian-language government-run Besuki School, one-and-half miles east in the exclusive Menteng administrative village, for part of 3rd grade and for 4th grade. By this time, he had picked up on some Indonesian in addition to his native English.[22]He also joined the Cub Scouts.[30]
In his memoir Obama describes his experiences growing up in his mother's middle class family.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama#:~:text=Obama%20spent%20most%20of%20his,to%20Lolo%20Soetoro%20from%20Indonesia.
While I was saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America, BarrySoetoro was at Besuki School, Menteng, Indonesia.
Where he learned the most beautiful sound he ever heard before….
The muslim call to prayer.
I’ve stayed in Old Town Jerusalem inside the wall a few times. I find that sound blood curdling and creepy.
Re Hawaii—Punahou:
“When he was 10 years of age, his mother shipped him back from Indonesia to his grandparents in Hawaii so that young Barack could get a first-class American education. He entered Punahou, the expensive and most prestigious prep school in the islands. From there, despite his admittedly indifferent grades, Obama was admitted to Occidental, an elite private college in Los Angeles. He spent two years there, after which he transferred to Columbia University, one of the private Ivy League schools. After Columbia, Obama attended Harvard Law, another private Ivy League school.”
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/06/11/obama_hearts_private_school_--_for_himself_and_family_126935.html
“Punahou occupies a privileged position, not just on the hillside, but in Hawaii society. In his memoir, Dreams From My Father,Barack Obama recalled how his grandfather pulled strings to get him in.”
https://www.npr.org/2012/10/13/162786014/hawaii-prep-school-gave-obama-window-to-success#:~:text=Hawaii%20Prep%20School%20Gave%20Obama%20Window%20To%20Success%20Punahou%20School,environment%20familiarized%20him%20with%20success.
So he's clearly a 'man of the people'. Just ask anyone in the media.
And now Biden puts the shive into Israel, and favors Hamas. How much bribe money does Biden take from Iran now? Are you ready for Sharia law? I am not.
Obama's grandfather was a furniture salesman, i.e. an Al Bundy. If Obama had contempt for the middle class growing up it was because his family was working class. You're complete ignorance is overwhelming.
“The family then moved to Honolulu, Hawaii, where Dunham found a better furniture store opportunity. Madelyn Dunham started working at the Bank of Hawaii in 1960, and was promoted as one of the bank's first female vice presidents in 1970.[15][16]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Armour_Dunham#:~:text=Stanley%20Armour%20Dunham%20(March%2023,of%2010%20in%20Honolulu%2C%20Hawaii.
His grandmother was a bank president. I don’t think they were poor. You said he got a scholarship to Punahou but I quoted above that Obama himself said his grandfather pulled strings to get him admitted. Any sources for the info you are posting? (Edit: in the Wikipedia entry for Madelyn Dunham—Obama’s grandmother—it says he got scholarships for Punahou’s tuition. You were right about that but his fam in Hawaii were not poor— Madelyn was a vice president for a Seattle bank before they moved to Hawaii and Stanley was the manager of a furniture store.)
I’m not from NY, but I thought Trump talks like a NY construction boss.
Trump never attended a public school in his life. How does someone become as ignorant as you?
How did he get that accent then? You are obviously not a New Yorker, because it can’t be faked except by a professional grade actor.
You are posting misinformation. Sounds pretty ignorant to me to do that.
Obama truly believes he is the only one with answers.
Carnival barker, con man - that's Obama. It is nearly impossible to do now that the internet has been scrubbed of most, if not all, of the investigative journalism (yes, it did exist at one time) pieces done during his rise to prominence in Chicago. But if you do find any, you'll also find a common thread - he was created out of very thin air. (The stuff I read back in the 07-09 time frame was just like most of the political dystopia movies.)
Obama was a fiction created by the World Economic Forum, basically global Nazi’s who demand one world fascist government.
Of course, the WEF was founded by and is run by...a German.
The world economic forum are the exact opposite of nazis. How does someone become as mind boggling stupid as you?
Look at their policies, not what they say. Totalitarian control. Loss of liberty. Erasure of free speech. Confiscation of personal firearms. Continuous useless wars. Depopulation objectives. Force people to eat bugs, not meat. Confiscation of farmland. Insane lunacy of the global warming hoax. Shutdown of nuclear, coal and oil. Forcing solar panels and windmills which don’t provide baseload reliable power. Vast internet censorship. Spying on individual peoples. Forced immigration all over the world. Trampling religious freedom. Promotion of degenerate sexual behaviors . Global corporations dictating policies with zero regard for the rights and will of the common people. Shall I go on?
NAZIs and Communists are almost the same. I think that people think they are opposites because they fought each other in WW2.
They are exactly the same thing. Socialists. The Ribbentrop Molotov Non Aggression Pact made them partners, carving up Poland. Until Hitler broke the Pact. Hitler made a run for the Russian oil fields in Baku, Azerbaijan . Stalin’s Red Army blocked them. Then came Operation Barbarossa, Hitler’s invasion of Mother Russia. The winter stopped the invasion, just like it stopped Napoleon’s Grande Armie. Hitler was forced to make gasoline and diesel fuel from coal gasification.
Ukraine is absolutely NONE of our business. This a fight between Russia and Germany. A repeat. And yes, Germany is digging coal again. Solar panels and wind mills are a cruel joke. Low density energy.
Drill, baby, drill. Nuke it for super high energy density.
Only a Nazi would know for sure.
And the ironic thing is, as smart as Obama thinks he is, he cannot see that he is a tool not an anointed leader.
OBAMA is a tool of the devil, and was created out of YEARS of media-induced 'white guilt' --- white voters felt compelled to prove they were not racists.
The irony is he was raised by his mother’s side of the fam and hardly knew his dad’s side. His mother died at age 52. He has attributed his formation mainly to his grandmother, a midwesterner. Honestly, how deep was/is his connection to “black America”?
“Obama said about her during an interview with Diane Sawyer, "She never got a college education but is one of the smartest people I know. ... She's where I get my practical streak. That part of me that's hardheaded, I get from her. She's tough as nails". Obama said his iconic image of his grandmother was seeing her come home from work and trading her business outfit and girdle for a muumuu, some slippers and a drink and a cigarette.[16]
On October 20, 2008, the Obama campaign announced that he would suspend campaign events on October 23 and 24 to spend some time with Dunham. His communications director told reporters that she had fallen ill in the preceding weeks, and that while she was released from the hospital the week before, her health had deteriorated "to the point where her situation is very serious".[30] In an October 23, 2008, interview with CBS News, Obama said, "She has really been the rock of the family, the foundation of the family. Whatever strength, discipline – that – that I have – it comes from her".[31]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madelyn_Dunham#Death
She died two days before the 2008 election.
(....unlike PatrickMahomes who has a black father/white mother, Obama pigmented darker, and thus identified as 'black' at some point. Its in one of his books... )
He doesn’t mind being the front man as long as he gets attention and platitude
Not to mention always using the word 'folks' like he's one of us.
.....that's cuz he's just a folksy guy -- the kind you would NOT want living next door.
Except it always sounds fake and demeaning when they say.. “ folks”
Nobody can quote anything memorable that he said in his long, verbose speeches. (Except lies, like “You can keep your doctor,” etc.)
He made one statement that has remained at the core of the Democrat party and provides its "north star": "we will reward our friends and punish our enemies". If you want to know where the personality of the current Democrat party originated, it is there.
Pretentious is the perfect word - he was always lecturing us, just way too condescending, and he hasn't changed a bit. Really annoying.
His whistley 'ssss' irritate me.
Interesting. I’m no Obama fan, but it did seem like one of his strengths was his impeccable speaking ability. He came across as polished and articulate, so I can understand why people were drawn to him. He definitely came across as more “presidential” than Trump, who was brash and confrontational. So mainstream people felt safe with Obama, even though to those of us paying attention he was a complete fraud. That’s my take anyway.
Trump babbles on like an idiot! One long run on sentence which goes everywhere and no where all at once.
He’s hilarious .. get a sense of humor